Canada to firmly re-assess its status as a British colony

[HVC]

It made me laugh

[HVC]

Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose

Le premiere etoile Guy Lafleur

frere jacques

voulez vous couchez avec moi

merde

ou est la salle de bain

tabernac!

[Oexmelin]

Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose

Le premiere etoile Guy Lafleur

frere jacques

voulez vous couchez avec moi

merde

ou est la salle de bain

The successes of second language French in Canada... 

A somewhat common saying in English, something picked up from hockey, a XVIIth c. song no doubt learned in elementary school (you can substitute for Alouette, I would think...), a French crude pick-up line popularized by a pop song, a French version of an English swear word, and the sentence one needed to memorize to get out of class in high school French.

[Josephus]

Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose

Le premiere etoile Guy Lafleur

frere jacques

voulez vous couchez avec moi

merde

ou est la salle de bain

The successes of second language French in Canada... 

A somewhat common saying in English, something picked up from hockey, a XVIIth c. song no doubt learned in elementary school (you can substitute for Alouette, I would think...), a French crude pick-up line popularized by a pop song, a French version of an English swear word, and the sentence one needed to memorize to get out of class in high school French.

Yeah...that's about it.
Except the first one was actually popularized in a song by an immortal English Canadian rock band, though popular in Quebec, Rush. 

[Razgovory]

The language laws in Quebec serve the opposite function: to enhance the language rights of the french-speaking majority at the expense of the minority.

Not again.

I have, time and again, asked you to explain how the language laws in Quebec violate "the minority's rights".

"The minority" school rights are protected. "The minority" whose rights are infringed, in this case, is the right of everyone who does not qualify for English schooling. Just like, in many jurisdiction, people who do not qualify for residency in one school board do not get to pick which school they send their kids to. Again, you might, like the Tea Partiers, deem this to be an intolerable infringement upon your personal freedom. You still have private schools, if you so desire.

The other "rights" infringed upon are the rights to chose the size of fonts, the right to omit a French version of the exact same advertizing. In this case, "the minority" are corporations or business owners. Having such requirements might be bad business policy, as you take pleasure in reminding us all the time, but I would be hard pressed to call that "oppression".

Why does the state having a pressing need to legislate font size?  What is the purpose of this?  Why does the Government need to enforce the use of French on private signage?  That seems absurd.

[Razgovory]

... They prefer French over English.  That is the whole point.

As any culturally and sociologically coherent people composed of a large majority of French speaker would.  You are indeed correct to state that that's the whole point.  As aggravating as this is for our Anglo neighbors.




G.

Oh course not.  That's why English is the predominant language of Louisiana.

[Grallon]

Yeah, well, not being moved to tears by violations of the rights of minorities is not exactly an unknown position for you.

Oex went at it again - trying to reason with your 'blind spot' which is, in my opinion, futile since it is - you know - a blind spot.  You don't see it, therefore you can't acknowledge it. 

In any case you're correct in saying that I believe cultural minorities should adapt themselves to the customs of the majority rather than the other way around.  In that light multiculturalism, in its Canadian flavor, is shown, once more, to be the pernicious intellectual fraud that it is.




G.

[Razgovory]

In any case you're correct in saying that I believe cultural minorities should adapt themselves to the customs of the majority rather than the other way around.  In that light multiculturalism, in its Canadian flavor, is shown, once more, to be the pernicious intellectual fraud that it is.




G.

Well, since we agree to all that, we can remove the language laws and you all can speak English like civilized human beings.

[Ideologue]

Évidemment, cela me conviendrait parfaitement, d'autant que je suis bien plus éloquent dans ma langue maternelle (enfin, j'espère). Mais je crains que cela ne limite sévèrement la conversation.

Obviously, I wouldn't mind, as I speak more eloquently in my mother language (at least, I hope so).  However I believe that speaking thusly would severely limit the conversation.

Hey, I'm not that bad at this.

[Ideologue]

Google translate gives this :

"Obviously this would suit me perfectly, especially since I am much more eloquent in my language (well, hopefully). But I fear this will severely limit the conversation."

FUCK YEAH.  I am now fluent in four languages.

[Ed Anger]

Google translate gives this :

"Obviously this would suit me perfectly, especially since I am much more eloquent in my language (well, hopefully). But I fear this will severely limit the conversation."

FUCK YEAH.  I am now fluent in four languages.

English, French, Hillbilly, Briar.

[Ideologue]

Google translate gives this :

"Obviously this would suit me perfectly, especially since I am much more eloquent in my language (well, hopefully). But I fear this will severely limit the conversation."

FUCK YEAH.  I am now fluent in four languages.

English, French, Hillbilly, Briar.

[Neil]

The successes of second language French in Canada... 

Well, it is the second language, but English is the language of government, culture, business, sports, technology, the media and in fact civilization.

[garbon]

The reason why we return all the time to the past, is simply because the place of French in Canada is precisely grounded in the past, in national narratives, which the presentism of multi-culturalism, cost-benefit analysis, and liberalism, do their best to bracket away.

I'm not sure how such an impasse would ever be bridged then. Most people find the 19th century irrelevant (or generously - of little importance) at this point, if they even are aware of the past.

[jimmy olsen]

After all, I've had clients sued by Martians...

I seem to recall that story.  Didn't the judge dismiss on the grounds that, if the plaintiff were correct, he had no grounds, as a Martian, to sue in that court?

Yup, that's the one - Martians aren't "persons" who could sue (the backgroud is that at the time it was very difficult to dismiss a case in Ontario in a summary manner for a factual reason - it has since grown easier. Hence the somewhat smartass ruling  ).

Let's say an alien scientist was observing Earth and the Canadian Air Force detected him and shot him down and he sued, would his/her/it's case really be dismissed on that reasoning?