Canada "too small" to develop Northwest Passage shipping, diplomat says

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#15
August 14, 2011, 02:10:44 PM
Quote from: Siege on August 14, 2011, 02:02:23 PM
Quote from: Viking on August 14, 2011, 01:39:26 PM
Quote from: Neil on August 14, 2011, 01:22:43 PM
More like the Somalia of the north.

But with Aircraft carriers and Guided Missile cruisers..
Russia have aircraft carriers? No way!

It breaks down. A lot.
Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

Viking

#16
August 14, 2011, 02:15:59 PM
Quote from: Siege on August 14, 2011, 02:02:23 PM
Quote from: Viking on August 14, 2011, 01:39:26 PM
Quote from: Neil on August 14, 2011, 01:22:43 PM
More like the Somalia of the north.

But with Aircraft carriers and Guided Missile cruisers..
Russia have aircraft carriers? No way!

WAY!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDgLyVkOZV0

Here's a picture with Medvedev on board the Admiral Kuznetsov (featured in the video).

First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Razgovory

#17
August 14, 2011, 02:53:08 PM
Quote from: Siege on August 14, 2011, 02:02:23 PM
Quote from: Viking on August 14, 2011, 01:39:26 PM
Quote from: Neil on August 14, 2011, 01:22:43 PM
More like the Somalia of the north.

But with Aircraft carriers and Guided Missile cruisers..
Russia have aircraft carriers? No way!

It's really more of a Cruiser with a landing strip and ramp.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Viking

#18
August 14, 2011, 02:58:56 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on August 14, 2011, 02:53:08 PM
Quote from: Siege on August 14, 2011, 02:02:23 PM
Quote from: Viking on August 14, 2011, 01:39:26 PM
Quote from: Neil on August 14, 2011, 01:22:43 PM
More like the Somalia of the north.

But with Aircraft carriers and Guided Missile cruisers..
Russia have aircraft carriers? No way!

It's really more of a Cruiser with a landing strip and ramp.

It's almost as big as the USS CV Midway. And can carry more than 50 aircraft.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Admiral Yi

#19
August 14, 2011, 03:14:41 PM
Quote from: Viking on August 14, 2011, 02:58:56 PM
It's almost as big as the USS CV Midway. And can carry more than 50 aircraft.

12-18 jump jets and a bunch of helicopters IIRC.

Razgovory

#20
August 14, 2011, 03:20:18 PM
You mean the WWII era ship?  Wow. A ship that carried 65 planes when it retired and had twice the crew?  I am under impressed.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Viking

#21
August 14, 2011, 03:36:19 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 14, 2011, 03:14:41 PM
Quote from: Viking on August 14, 2011, 02:58:56 PM
It's almost as big as the USS CV Midway. And can carry more than 50 aircraft.

12-18 jump jets and a bunch of helicopters IIRC.

Flankers and Frogfoots are not "jump jets", plus they have 12 nuclear capable SS-N-19 anti ship missiles as well.

Russian Carrier design philosophy FTL for putting anti ship missiles on the carriers, but I can't help that, but it the biggest non-nuclear Carrier in the world.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Razgovory

#22
August 14, 2011, 03:45:30 PM
I think they put nuclear capable missiles on the USS Missouri for a while, which was a battle ship.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Neil

#23
August 14, 2011, 04:13:42 PM
Quote from: Viking on August 14, 2011, 03:36:19 PM
Russian Carrier design philosophy FTL for putting anti ship missiles on the carriers, but I can't help that, but it the biggest non-nuclear Carrier in the world.
That's not quite true.  CV-63 and CV-67 are still in existence and in reserve, although not in commission.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

Neil

#24
August 14, 2011, 04:15:01 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on August 14, 2011, 03:45:30 PM
I think they put nuclear capable missiles on the USS Missouri for a while, which was a battle ship.
All four Iowas were refitted to carry nuclear-capable Tomahawks in the early 80s.  Reagan was wise.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

Viking

#25
August 14, 2011, 04:24:26 PM
Quote from: Neil on August 14, 2011, 04:15:01 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on August 14, 2011, 03:45:30 PM
I think they put nuclear capable missiles on the USS Missouri for a while, which was a battle ship.
All four Iowas were refitted to carry nuclear-capable Tomahawks in the early 80s.  Reagan was wise.

I would have thought the Tomahawks would be seen by you as a non-gun cop-out?
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Neil

#26
August 14, 2011, 04:30:24 PM
Quote from: Viking on August 14, 2011, 04:24:26 PM
Quote from: Neil on August 14, 2011, 04:15:01 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on August 14, 2011, 03:45:30 PM
I think they put nuclear capable missiles on the USS Missouri for a while, which was a battle ship.
All four Iowas were refitted to carry nuclear-capable Tomahawks in the early 80s.  Reagan was wise.
I would have thought the Tomahawks would be seen by you as a non-gun cop-out?
I like the guns, but it's the armour and heavy construction that makes a dreadnought so much better than any other warship built since Vanguard was completed.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

Razgovory

#27
August 14, 2011, 04:37:40 PM
Quote from: Neil on August 14, 2011, 04:15:01 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on August 14, 2011, 03:45:30 PM
I think they put nuclear capable missiles on the USS Missouri for a while, which was a battle ship.
All four Iowas were refitted to carry nuclear-capable Tomahawks in the early 80s.  Reagan was wise.

You would think that a nuclear capable hatchet would be a bad idea.  I mean some people can throw them fairly well, but not that far.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Siege

#28
August 14, 2011, 06:46:02 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on August 14, 2011, 04:37:40 PM
Quote from: Neil on August 14, 2011, 04:15:01 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on August 14, 2011, 03:45:30 PM
I think they put nuclear capable missiles on the USS Missouri for a while, which was a battle ship.
All four Iowas were refitted to carry nuclear-capable Tomahawks in the early 80s.  Reagan was wise.

You would think that a nuclear capable hatchet would be a bad idea.  I mean some people can throw them fairly well, but not that far.

The nuclear handgrenade was a better invention.


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