Attitudes / Reactions To Domestic Violence, Within Your Social Group and Country

[Razgovory]

I represented one.  Uh, bit of a waste of carbon, dumb as a sack of hammers, but he wasn't guilty.

A friend of mine from school may be in an abusive marriage (it's obviously emotionally abusive, but there's not been any direct signs of physical abuse--psychological signs are a different story).  I really had no idea what to do about it short of recommend she not live with the guy, and maybe go back in time and not have three kids with him.  She wasn't a close friend, and I never met her husband.

Er, how are you representing one when you haven't passed the bar?

South Carolina Appellate Rule 401.  Criminal practice clinic.

Do they actually pay you for this?

[Ideologue]

I represented one.  Uh, bit of a waste of carbon, dumb as a sack of hammers, but he wasn't guilty.

A friend of mine from school may be in an abusive marriage (it's obviously emotionally abusive, but there's not been any direct signs of physical abuse--psychological signs are a different story).  I really had no idea what to do about it short of recommend she not live with the guy, and maybe go back in time and not have three kids with him.  She wasn't a close friend, and I never met her husband.

Er, how are you representing one when you haven't passed the bar?

South Carolina Appellate Rule 401.  Criminal practice clinic.

Do they actually pay you for this?

Nope, per section (d)(4) of the rule.

[MadImmortalMan]

The bar is a racket. You did the work, you should get paid.

[Razgovory]

The bar is a racket. You did the work, you should get paid.

I'm not sure I'd want someone to represent me who hasn't proven he knows what he's doing.

[Ideologue]

The bar is a racket. You did the work, you should get paid.

I was paid in experience.

Yes, I'd rather be paid in money.

I'm not sure I'd want someone to represent me who hasn't proven he knows what he's doing.

Yeah, you do get what you pay for.  Although we had a supervising (real) attorney, of course.  Couldn't even show up to court without him.

Actually don't know what we'd have done if he'd gotten into a car accident or something. :shrug:  We'd already continued the case for six months when my client got arrested in another county on the eve of his original trial.

[Razgovory]

Did you win the case at least?

[Ideologue]

Did you win the case at least?

Yes.  That's why he isn't guilty.

[CountDeMoney]

I represented one.  Uh, bit of a waste of carbon, dumb as a sack of hammers, but he wasn't guilty.

A friend of mine from school may be in an abusive marriage (it's obviously emotionally abusive, but there's not been any direct signs of physical abuse--psychological signs are a different story).  I really had no idea what to do about it short of recommend she not live with the guy, and maybe go back in time and not have three kids with him.  She wasn't a close friend, and I never met her husband.

Er, how are you representing one when you haven't passed the bar?

South Carolina Appellate Rule 401.  Criminal practice clinic.

Do they actually pay you for this?

Think of it as the senior internship for lawyers, with oversight.  Gotta practice on somebody.

[Ideologue]

Also, the clients for the CPC are all indigent.  So their options are pro se, the regular public defender, or (if they're special and got lucky) us.

I can about guarantee that he was better off with us than a PD.  Not a knock on them, but I had one client, the PD has, I dunno, a hundred.

Like Money sez, you gotta practice on somebody.  Like I said, they're indigent; so think of it like cadavers at a medical school.

[dps]

Pretty much everyone I know who has ever talked about the subject detests wife beaters, but other than giving the victim the standard advice to leave the guy and press charges, no body wants to get involved.  And the advice is given basically pro forma, because everyone who has become aware of a domestic violence situation and tried to give the victim advice or help out has found out that there's nothing that you really can do, because the victims won't follow the advice and help themselves.

[derspiess]

To answer the OP, I've never known anyone or of anyone involved with domestic violence. 

[Razgovory]

Think of it as the senior internship for lawyers, with oversight.  Gotta practice on somebody.

I was hoping they would practice on corpses.  Like doctors.

[Ideologue]

Think of it as the senior internship for lawyers, with oversight.  Gotta practice on somebody.

I was hoping they would practice on corpses.  Like doctors.

Like Money sez, you gotta practice on somebody.  Like I said, they're indigent; so think of it like cadavers at a medical school.

WTF.  Don't steal my material.

[Razgovory]

You edited that in after I posted!

[OttoVonBismarck]

My wife understands I am only correcting improper behaviors.