War After Armageddon - Plausible Scenario? The Languish Discussion.

[Syt]

I'm currently reading Ralph Peters' War After Armageddon. I liked his 1980s book Red Army about WW3 in Germany from a Soviet perspective well enough.

Disclaimer: I don't expect high political analysis or deep insights from the book - I read it as near future military pulp.


Anyways, the scenario as put down in the book:

In the 2020s, Muslim extremists detonate dirty bombs in major European cities. A minority among the Muslims in Europe start an uprising which they know will fail, but they hope to widen the rift between West and Muslims.

This is followed by violent pogroms against Muslims in all of Europe, at the end of which the nations of Europe decide to expell all Muslims. The U.S., appalled by the developments in Europe, offer humanitarian aid and supply ships for repatriation of the Muslims to Muslim countries - who don't want their Westernized cousins. The deported are dropped off in Muslim countries by force where the local authorities leave them to die. After a violent incident on one of the U.S. supplied transport ships, the Muslim world rallies against the U.S. and conspiracy theories rise that the whole deportation was the Americans' plan in the first place.

A year or two later, Iran launches an all out nuclear attack against Israel; at the same time terrorists detonate nukes in downtown L.A. and on the Strip in Las Vegas. America is outraged and religious radicals, call for a crusade and enter the White House in the next election. They create a volunteer Crusader Army to re-capture the Holy Land from the Muslims and eradicate the threat of Islam once and for all.

At the beginning of the book it's inferred that the U.S. turn into a rabidly religious country at the end of the process and that the Holy War got rid of all Muslims.

Haven't read much further yet. The book focuses on combat operations in Syria and Israel in the mid-2030s. Combat has a bit of a "back to the roots" approach with a lot of the electronic equipment (except especially shielded stuff) negated by electronic warfare and EMP weaponry.

Plausible? Or completely crazy? As said, I read this for entertainment, not form political enlightenment. But I thought Languishites would enjoy the scenario.

[Slargos]

Implausible. Once the muslim insurrection starts, Europe will be so ethnically fragmented, there will be no defense to speak of.

[Syt]

Implausible. Once the muslim insurrection starts, Europe will be so ethnically fragmented, there will be no defense to speak of.

The idea is that only a small group rises up and hits key targets (like the Sistine Chapel) to rile up Euro response.

[Fate]

Needs a map.

[The Larch]

Sounds painful to read.

Needs a map.

Before and after maps from "Blood borders: How a better Middle East would look", Armed Forces Journal, June 2006.

[frunk]

I like how even in a "better Middle East Map" they still can't decide what the West Bank should be.

[Viking]

I like how even in a "better Middle East Map" they still can't decide what the West Bank should be.

Meh, I like how slicing and dicing the bulk of the arab states is somehow deemed simpler than resolving the Israeli Palestinian issue.

[Slargos]

I like how even in a "better Middle East Map" they still can't decide what the West Bank should be.

Meh, I like how slicing and dicing the bulk of the arab states is somehow deemed simpler than resolving the Israeli Palestinian issue.

It'll be much easier once there are no arabs there. 

[The Brain]

I wouldn't bother with dirty bombs if I were a terrorist.

[Solmyr]

Implausible. Once the muslim insurrection starts, Europe will be so ethnically fragmented, there will be no defense to speak of.

I think you underestimate the Europeans' capability for violent pogroms.

And if all else fails, we can import some Russians and Jews to expel the Muslims.

[Viking]

I wouldn't bother with dirty bombs if I were a terrorist.

I agree, a swedish terrorist would make a clean bomb.

[Solmyr]

I wouldn't bother with dirty bombs if I were a terrorist.

I agree, a swedish terrorist would make a clean bomb.

If he could make sense of the instructions provided by IKEA.

[Syt]

The map, while by the same author, is not related to the scenario at hand.

[Viking]

I wouldn't bother with dirty bombs if I were a terrorist.

I agree, a swedish terrorist would make a clean bomb.

If he could make sense of the instructions provided by IKEA.

If there is any more anti-social misanthrope in this world than Ingvar Kamprad I'm a jelly doughnut.

[Razgovory]

Well, Seedy.