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Started by Slargos, August 05, 2011, 03:58:55 PM

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Slargos

#45
August 10, 2011, 03:45:51 PM
Quote from: Malthus on August 10, 2011, 02:33:30 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on August 10, 2011, 02:02:39 PM
Huh.  More arguments for my position - my usual one (which I'm not sure if I've said on here before; I'm sorry if I have) is the concept of original sin.  Omnipotent, omniscient God makes man.  Man promptly fucks it up because man is fallible.  Either God is a liar and not omniscient, or else God creates man to take a fall and is a sadist.  Thing is, worship of either kind of entity seems at least vaguely immoral.

The Eden story is wierder than that.

God isn't angry at Adam for screwing up - the gods (plural, in that story and only in that story) are frightened that Adam, and hence humans, may become 'like them', and threaten their power. It is the god's fear that makes them turf Adam & Eve out of the guarden.

Seriously, check it out.  ;)

If one were to be speculative, there are for instance of course ample signs that the biblical creation story doesn't really describe the creation of the universe per se, but only of the creation of a universe in the sense of a tribal splintering and the forcing out of Adam and Eve into what is for all intents and purposes a "new" world.

If one were a blasphemous fucktard with no regard for one's immortal soul, that is.

Razgovory

#46
August 10, 2011, 06:41:54 PM
Quote from: Iormlund on August 10, 2011, 01:37:43 PM
Atheist evangelism was one of those culture shocks for me. I'd never heard of anything similar over here. People simply ignore religion altogether.
It might be just a consequence of the puzzling importance Americans still give to religion, more than anything else.

I think Hitchens was born British.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Ideologue

#47
August 10, 2011, 06:54:36 PM
I thought Christopher Hitchens lived in Britain.  Apparently he lives in America.

In any event, he's a leftist who supported the Iraq War.  He's a Goddamn hero.  Like me.
Kinemalogue
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Razgovory

#48
August 10, 2011, 07:05:53 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on August 10, 2011, 06:54:36 PM
I thought Christopher Hitchens lived in Britain.  Apparently he lives in America.

In any event, he's a leftist who supported the Iraq War.  He's a Goddamn hero.  Like me.

He supported the war cause he still gets a hard-on for forced social engineering.  Communists never change.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Ideologue

#49
August 10, 2011, 07:15:26 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on August 10, 2011, 07:05:53 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on August 10, 2011, 06:54:36 PM
I thought Christopher Hitchens lived in Britain.  Apparently he lives in America.

In any event, he's a leftist who supported the Iraq War.  He's a Goddamn hero.  Like me.

He supported the war cause he still gets a hard-on for forced social engineering.  Communists never change.

It is incredibly arousing.
Kinemalogue
Current reviews: The 'Burbs (9/10); Gremlins 2: The New Batch (9/10); John Wick: Chapter 2 (9/10); A Cure For Wellness (4/10)

Razgovory

#50
August 10, 2011, 07:16:29 PM
If you are attracted to failure, sure.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Ideologue

#51
August 10, 2011, 07:16:58 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on August 10, 2011, 07:16:29 PM
If you are attracted to failure, sure.

OK, President Hayes.
Kinemalogue
Current reviews: The 'Burbs (9/10); Gremlins 2: The New Batch (9/10); John Wick: Chapter 2 (9/10); A Cure For Wellness (4/10)

Razgovory

#52
August 10, 2011, 07:23:30 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on August 10, 2011, 07:16:58 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on August 10, 2011, 07:16:29 PM
If you are attracted to failure, sure.

OK, President Hayes.

How did you know one my middle names. :huh:
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

DGuller

#53
August 10, 2011, 07:41:57 PM
President is your middle name?  I can see that becoming an issue when you're in a mental hospital.

Razgovory

#54
August 10, 2011, 07:44:02 PM
Quote from: DGuller on August 10, 2011, 07:41:57 PM
President is your middle name?  I can see that becoming an issue when you're in a mental hospital.

I have more then one.  I had indecisive parents.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

DontSayBanana

#55
August 10, 2011, 11:25:50 PM
Quote from: DGuller on August 10, 2011, 07:41:57 PM
President is your middle name?  I can see that becoming an issue when you're in a mental hospital.

Especially when somebody decides to rub out the "P." :P
Experience bij!

Razgovory

#56
August 11, 2011, 01:33:26 AM
My poor "P'. :(
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

DGuller

#57
August 11, 2011, 01:53:22 AM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on August 10, 2011, 11:25:50 PM
Quote from: DGuller on August 10, 2011, 07:41:57 PM
President is your middle name?  I can see that becoming an issue when you're in a mental hospital.

Especially when somebody decides to rub out the "P." :P
I doubt rubbing it out would be an issue, as long as it's done in private.

Viking

#58
August 11, 2011, 05:28:57 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on August 10, 2011, 06:54:36 PM
I thought Christopher Hitchens lived in Britain.  Apparently he lives in America.

In any event, he's a leftist who supported the Iraq War.  He's a Goddamn hero.  Like me.

he is a US citizen now as well.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

The Brain

#59
August 11, 2011, 05:55:10 AM
Was it Hitchens who said "waterboarding is torture" after being subject to torture and people still believed him? A person will say anything.
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