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Started by Liep, March 11, 2009, 02:57:29 PM

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Josquius

Quote from: Liep on May 26, 2014, 08:39:15 AM
Apparently Austria also won the Eurovision in 1966, and Real Madrid also won the European Cup that same year.

All money on England!
I've seen a few (non british) people posting that on Facebook.
I refuse to even consider the possibility
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shocking! I don't believe it.
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I fully expect FIFA to conduct an effective investigation and to implement reforms that eliminate corruption in the organization forever.
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Liep

Quote from: FunkMonk on June 01, 2014, 08:17:32 AM
I fully expect FIFA to conduct an effective investigation and implement reforms that eliminates corruption in the organization forever.

Anything but the utmost efficiency and transparency would be shocking.
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Blatter will probably become Führer for life.

Zanza

Quote from: Norgy on June 01, 2014, 03:34:39 PM
Blatter will probably become Führer for life.
Platini could out-corrupt him.

mongers

I'm not sure I can bring myself to watch any of the World Cup. :gasp:
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Soccer is a scam!

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/02/sports/soccer/match-fixing-gang-strikes-at-soccers-fragile-legitimacy.html?_r=0

QuoteMatch-Fixing Gang Strikes at Global Soccer's Fragile Legitimacy

A New York Times investigation of match fixing ahead of the last World Cup gives an unusually detailed look at the ease with which professional gamblers can fix matches.

ROVANIEMI, Finland — A man arrived at the police station here in 2011 with an unusual tip. He told the police that a Singaporean man was fixing matches with the local professional soccer team. The police were incredulous.

This city on the Arctic Circle is known as the hometown of Santa Claus. It boasts a theme park with reindeer, elves and jolly St. Nicks. It is also a popular destination for Asian couples looking to make love under the Northern Lights. Rovaniemi is known for many things, but not for organized crime.

"Then after a few days, we started to realize that we had something real," said Arttu Granat, a police detective at the time who hunts moose on the weekends. "So we started to build up the surveillance team."

The detectives soon discovered that Wilson Raj Perumal, a match fixer from Singapore, was toiling away in Rovaniemi, working with several players, unbeknown to the coach. Mr. Perumal was considered a risk by his associates in a Singaporean match-rigging syndicate, so the group had sent a representative to Finland to tip off the police, Mr. Granat said.

Mr. Perumal was arrested and given a choice: Talk or be sent back to Singapore, where his punishment might be severe.

Mr. Perumal talked. His account — along with confidential documents, judicial investigations and interviews with people with knowledge of the syndicate's operations — revealed how pervasively illicit gambling operations have infected global soccer, leaving the legitimacy of what fans see on the field more fragile than ever.
No match-fixing syndicate has exploited soccer's vulnerabilities more than the group
Mr. Perumal worked for. The syndicate has manipulated hundreds of professional soccer matches around the world by identifying players and referees ripe for bribery — particularly in countries that pay low wages.

The syndicate's schemes often succeeded with apparent ease, including the rigging of exhibition games in the lead-up to the 2010 World Cup, raising concerns about the ability of officials to thwart match fixing.

The Apprentice Fixers

Mr. Perumal learned his trade in an informal school for match fixers in Singapore, along with Tan Seet Eng, a Singaporean man known widely as Dan Tan. In the early 1990s, they would gather in the stadiums where illegal bookmakers would take bets on the Malaysian-Singaporean soccer league.

The fixers were so successful that a Malaysian Cabinet minister estimated that they succeeded in fixing more than 70 percent of the league's matches. The corruption was so bad that the Malaysian-Singaporean league collapsed.

At the bottom of the fixers' hierarchy were runners: the go-betweens for the players and the fixers. Above the fixers were influential businessmen with the money to back the more expensive fixes and the protection muscle to make sure the network ran smoothly.

In the syndicate's early days, there was one king, known as Uncle Frankie, a legend among match fixers. He was a Chinese-Indonesian businessman who sometimes used the name Frankie Chung, but his real name could not be confirmed. He knew that the global expansion of soccer presented lots of fixing opportunities. Uncle Frankie would go to major international tournaments, like the World Cup, and try to bribe players and referees.

Uncle Frankie taught Mr. Tan and Mr. Perumal the dirty secret of international soccer: Many teams and their personnel are poor, so they often have players, coaches and referees open to bribes.

Kwesi Nyantakyi, president of the Ghana Football Association. "Yes, every competition. Every competition, they are there. It is done all the time in major competitions. In all the major tournaments, World Cup, Cup of Nations."

"The gamblers are not Africans," he added. "They are Europeans and Asians. So they have a lot of money to bet on these things."

As a country of talented players with little money, Ghana is one of the countries that fixers frequently target at international tournaments, Mr. Nyantakyi said. So he was not surprised when, in 2007, it was discovered that there had been an attempt to fix an international match involving Ghana's celebrated goalkeeping coach, Abukari Damba, who was working with the Singaporean fixers.

After some players turned him in, Mr. Damba confessed and said in a Ghana Football Association hearing that he had worked with the Singaporean fixers for 10 years.

Enter the Sapina Brothers

Mr. Perumal joined the international match-fixing group in 2008. In his interrogation cell in 2011, he charted the syndicate's organization for Mr. Granat and other Finnish police officers. It had European partners and Chinese backers who supplied money allegedly laundered through casinos in Macau.

The match-fixing syndicate was a criminal network, according to European police investigators. Europeans supplied compliant referees, players and coaches; Mr. Tan and the Singaporeans provided access to the vast, unregulated sports gambling market in Asia.

If the match fixers had only the referee on the take, they would say it was a one-star fix. In this case, the Asian syndicate would bet a smaller amount. If the local fixers had the entire team and the officiating crew on the take, it was called a five-star fix, and the syndicate would wager far more.

This system was devised at a meeting in a hotel room in Vienna in September 2008 between the Asian syndicate run by Mr. Tan and the Sapina brothers, two Berlin-based Croatian fixers who had a vast network of corrupt soccer players, referees and coaches. The Sapinas have twice been convicted of match fixing in Germany and are in prison there.

Together, they fixed hundreds of soccer matches around the world, targeting nearly every league — from the prestigious Champions League and World Cup qualifying matches to obscure, low-level matches. Once the Sapina brothers had persuaded their contacts to fix matches, Mr. Tan could then place bets on the Asian sports gambling market, the biggest in the world. Because much of the Asian market is underground, estimates of its size vary greatly. Patrick Jay, a senior executive of the Hong Kong Jockey Club, one of the largest government-controlled gambling companies in the world, estimated that the Asian market handled $1 trillion in wagering.

"It is huge," Mr. Jay said. "FIFA boasts about how much money they make every four years with the World Cup. You know what they call $4 billion in the illegal betting markets in Asia? Thursday."

680 Suspicious Matches

Terry Steans, a former FIFA investigator who now runs a sports security company in the United Kingdom, said the syndicate of Mr. Tan and Mr. Perumal moved fixing to another level from the early days of simply approaching players in hotel rooms.

"They organized tournaments where they invited entire teams — no one watched the games, they were not televised," Steans said. "The whole thing was set up for the gambling markets."

In February 2011, the syndicate orchestrated one of the strangest tournaments. It invited the national teams of Estonia, Bulgaria, Bolivia and Latvia to a beachside city in Turkey. The tournament's games were played in near-empty stadiums. They were not televised. Yet they attracted millions of dollars in bets on the Asian market.

All seven goals were scored on penalty kicks — all awarded by referees the syndicate had chosen and flown in.

"For sheer nerve, it has to rate high up there," Mr. Steans said. "They hired the stadium. Would not sell tickets. Would not allow fans in. No television. Four international teams. Bought the referees and made money on the gambling market. It is pretty brazen."

FIFA eventually barred all the referees.

In February 2013, Europol, the European Union's police intelligence agency, said the results of 680 matches worldwide from 2008 to 2011, including World Cup qualifying matches and European Champions League matches, were considered suspicious. Mr. Tan's group did most of this work, investigators said.

In just one country — Italy — Mr. Tan was so successful working with Balkan associates, who had connections with Italian organized crime, that more than 20 Italian professional soccer teams were investigated for match fixing. A senior investigator of Italy's National Organized Crime Task Force labeled Mr. Tan as the "No.

1 wanted man in Italy."

"For their part, Dan Tan and his group constitute a criminal network that is both dangerous and quick to violence in case of anyone who breaks their rules," an Italian prosecutor wrote in his statement. "This is stated in the testimony of one of the members who said it takes very little in the case of treason by one of the group to risk their murder."

The European investigators determined that Mr. Tan's syndicate also managed to fix matches played in the United States. In 2010, it persuaded a majority of El Salvador's national team to throw a game against D.C. United of Major League Soccer as well as an international match against the United States in Miami. Many of the Salvadoran players were subsequently barred for life.

The Syndicate Lives On

In 2011, Mr. Perumal was found guilty of corruption in Finland and was sentenced to two years. He was released early. In late April, he was arrested again in Finland because, the police said, he had returned to the fixing business and had an outstanding international arrest warrant. He faces extradition to Singapore.

Last year, Singaporean law enforcement officials arrested Mr. Tan. However, he is in indefinite detention and may not stand trial. The scale of his match fixing may never be fully revealed.

Their arrests are not expected to stanch match fixing in Asia. Mr. Granat, the detective who helped disrupt Mr. Perumal's exploits in northern Finland, said he ultimately recognized the group's extraordinary reach.

"I remember I started to take it seriously when Wilson Raj Perumal had been in prison for a week and he told me, 'This particular game next week will be fixed,' " Mr. Granat said. "He was in custody and he could still tell me these things."

In a recent interview in Kuala Lumpur, an associate of the syndicate's discussed the group's next phase. "Dan Tan and the others are locked up, but the betting cartel has just carried on," he said, speaking on the condition of anonymity for fear of retribution.

"They have new people to do their work. There is no stopping them."
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Let's bomb Russia!

mongers

It's pretty scandalous to suggest corruption is an serious issue in the Gulf Arab states.
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Zanza

So Löw dropped the only player other than the 36 year old Miroslav Klose that could play as an all-out striker from Germany's team. We'll go to the world cup with just one striker that has had his best years.

Don't expect much from Germany. :(

Valmy

Quote from: Zanza on June 02, 2014, 09:36:48 AM
So Löw dropped the only player other than the 36 year old Miroslav Klose that could play as an all-out striker from Germany's team. We'll go to the world cup with just one striker that has had his best years.

Don't expect much from Germany. :(

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Ah who am I kidding?  We are still going to lose.
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Josquius

Quote from: Zanza on June 02, 2014, 09:36:48 AM
So Löw dropped the only player other than the 36 year old Miroslav Klose that could play as an all-out striker from Germany's team. We'll go to the world cup with just one striker that has had his best years.

Don't expect much from Germany. :(
It will be interesting to see. I have read the trend in tactics these days is away from strikers. The formation of the future is 4-6-0!
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