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Josquius

Quote from: grumbler on June 30, 2025, 08:08:39 AMWhere does this idea that people falsely claim to be autistic to get jobs come from?

I guess from this years hot new scapegoat, the Trumpist take on DEI.
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Quote from: grumbler on June 30, 2025, 08:08:39 AMWhere does this idea that people falsely claim to be autistic to get jobs come from?

I don't think Raz is claiming that people fake being autistic to get jobs, just that he seems to believe that being autistic can't be that bad if it makes some people better at some jobs.
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Quote from: HVC on June 30, 2025, 08:39:41 AM
Quote from: grumbler on June 30, 2025, 08:08:39 AMWhere does this idea that people falsely claim to be autistic to get jobs come from?

I don't think Raz is claiming that people fake being autistic to get jobs, just that he seems to believe that being autistic can't be that bad if it makes some people better at some jobs.

The statement was that "a large number of people claim a disability that makes them better suited to well-paying, prestigious jobs." The implication of "claim" in this context is that the claim is not true.  I've not seen any evidence that autism makes a person better-suited for a job than a lack of autism.

I've taught a number of autistic students (those with diagnoses; none "claimed" to be autistic), all on the lower end of the spectrum. Most had developed techniques to deal wit their disorder(the only boon to this disorder was probably that they were much more self-aware than typical students) but a majority had comorbidities like ADHD that were a bigger challenge than (low-end) autism.
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 I could be wrong, but I read that as people claiming to have a disability when raz doesn't see it as a disability. Not that that they're caliming a disability to get a job.


*edit * but I guess he can clarify for himself rather than me trying  to devine one :D
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
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The other thing is that people just love to have diagnoses these days. Then the parents lean into that instead of proper parenting. Like this kid at my sons afterschool with adhd who literally jumps out at me like a cat, even licked my jacket one day.

Valmy

No matter what diagnosis your kid has you still have to do your best to help them become a functional adult.

But the idea that somehow their diagnosis will help them get a job in some lucrative industry is pretty ridiculous.
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Silicon Valley culture is full of does pretty ridiculous expectations or ideas and yet, everyone wants to be them.
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Razgovory

Quote from: HVC on June 30, 2025, 09:05:18 AMI could be wrong, but I read that as people claiming to have a disability when raz doesn't see it as a disability. Not that that they're caliming a disability to get a job.


*edit * but I guess he can clarify for himself rather than me trying  to devine one :D

Yeah, you get it.  It is sort of a humble brag, people claiming to have a disability that is actually a minor superpower.  It's guy's like Elon Musk who claim to have a disability that does not seem to have hindered him in anyway, shape, or form but uses it as an excuse for unacceptable behavior.
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I may not 100% agree with all of them, but it was too funny and too Languish not to share. I did love this little add-on by folks regarding Butler:
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"Everything that brought you here -- all the things that made you a prisoner of past sins -- they are gone. Forever and for good. So let the past go... and live."

"Somebody, after all, had to make a start. What we wrote and said is also believed by many others. They just don't dare express themselves as we did."

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I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017