Can one get serious career advise at languish?

[Tamas]

There are a LOT of things which are better than the corporate world.

Wearing pink t-shirts and selling kitchen furniture is not one of them.

How would you know, being a corporate slave yourself. 

That's exactly how I know it: I'd never exchange one for the other

You could never.

There is a not very subtle difference. 

Well, true enough, there is a level of honor above which one becomes incapable of acting as a salesman.

[Eddie Teach]

Sure you can.  You just need to keep in mind who is giving the advice and totally disregard as appropriate.

I would disregard Cal's advice, but that results in a paradox.

[Slargos]

Well, true enough, there is a level of honor above which one becomes incapable of acting as a salesman.

Whatever you say, Ned.

[Razgovory]

Re: Can one get serious career advise at languish?

Probably not.

Sure you can.  You just need to keep in mind who is giving the advice and totally disregard as appropriate.

For instance, take my advice, don't listen to me.

[Caliga]

In that case it is perhaps inappropriate to disregard the advice.

[Jacob]

Is there anything that stops you from taking one of the currently available consultancy positions, reasses and then start looking for the kind of industry job you think you prefer?

The way I look at it is that if you're waiting around for your ideal job, there's no reason not to do so in a less miserable position in a new job. And who knows, maybe it'll turn out that the less miserable position is actually very fulfilling. On the other hand, if it isn't, you haven't really lost anything and in most likelihood some of the misery has been abated by the excitement and hubbub of getting into a new position. There's usually a bit of a honeymoon period like that.

To me it sounds like you're a bit afraid of change and using the ideal of perfection to talk you out of the achievable and available good.

In short, pull the trigger. Go. Sitting around and hoping that things get better is miserable.

[Caliga]

In short, pull the trigger. Go. Sitting around and hoping that things get better is miserable.

I know lots of people who sit around hoping for that, and it never happens.  Meanwhile, they're wasting time and getting stale.

[Josquius]

Yeah, I'd say that option seems the best. A job that is slightly less shitty than your current one is still a step in the right direction even if it isn't your ideal job. Just because you're working a less shitty job doesn't mean you have to stop looking for a good one.

[alfred russel]

On the other hand, would your current employer give you better leverage to find an industry job? If you don't like your current job because of the hours, pressure, and sales culture, are you sure the consulting gig you are contemplating is going to be different?

[The Brain]

If you're not happy about your present job situation then leave for something else. Change is generally for the better.

[Jacob]

If you're not happy about your present job situation then leave for something else. Change is generally for the better.

So you're a follower of Tzeentch. I always had you pegged (ahem) as more of a Slaanesh guy.

[The Brain]

If you're not happy about your present job situation then leave for something else. Change is generally for the better.

So you're a follower of Tzeentch. I always had you pegged (ahem) as more of a Slaanesh guy.

I'm flighty.

[Barrister]

And so my motivation has dropped, and now from working hard to deliver goals I have a hard time motivating myself to even deliver on assignments.

This right here caught my attention.

If things are so bad you're having trouble even finishing your assignments you need to get out.  Now.  Before they fire you down the road.

I don't have any experience in consultancy, but I do in law.  And everything you described about your job sounds like a big law firm, so I can commiserate.  In particular what you describe sounds just like the law firm mergers I have seen - everyone is smiles at first, but eventually people from the smaller firm feel frozen out, and many / most leave within a few years.

There's little downside to going to another consultancy firm and seeing how you like it.  You can always leave it further down the road.  Don't spend too much time waiting for the "perfect" job - just get a good job.

[MadImmortalMan]

You already have a Big Four on the resume. Go do what you want now.

[Valdemar]

Thanks all

Most of you say what i feel.. "get out of there before it makes you suicidal"

But, I've been givn the warning advice from some contacts in headhunting.. too many and too often a change on your resume needs very good reasoning and is pulling down.

In short, if i change for anoterh consultancy, and then back to industry shortly after it may or may not, depending on my interviewing skills, reflect badly. It is seen as someone not committing or unable to settling and always looking for something else

But yeah, BB and others, the big four are very much like a big lawfirm, in particuallr those of them that still has accountants running the show....

V