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Started by The Minsky Moment, June 08, 2011, 01:13:27 PM

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To be fair to Pawlenty, he included the words "probably" and "adequately". I assume he wants to suck up to the tea partiers who will interpret that to mean he is going to slash the role of government, while also sucking up to contractors who will interpret that to mean he will outsource everything that can possibly be outsourced.
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Berkut

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on June 08, 2011, 03:21:10 PM
Quote from: Berkut on June 08, 2011, 02:21:44 PM
I am surprised to find out that there are google services that provide things like nationwide security and legal system services, i.e. courts and such. I had no idea.

There are plenty of services that have websites that provide private adjudications of disputes on a national basis.  Try AAA or JAMS for example.

But adjudication is not a court system, and could not possibly replace the court system. This fails the google test.

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There are also private security companies and investigation/intelligence providers that operate nationwide.  Some even have worldwide coverage.

BUt they lack the ability to arrest, investigate, etc., etc. Again, they could not replace that FBI, for example. They can't get warrants, blahblahblah.
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Can't Bail bondsmen make arrests?  They certainly can detain people.
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MadImmortalMan

I wonder if I could somehow get a Letter of Marque and Reprisal.   :hmm:
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HisMajestyBOB

Quote from: Berkut on June 08, 2011, 09:20:32 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on June 08, 2011, 03:21:10 PM
Quote from: Berkut on June 08, 2011, 02:21:44 PM
I am surprised to find out that there are google services that provide things like nationwide security and legal system services, i.e. courts and such. I had no idea.

There are plenty of services that have websites that provide private adjudications of disputes on a national basis.  Try AAA or JAMS for example.

But adjudication is not a court system, and could not possibly replace the court system. This fails the google test.

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There are also private security companies and investigation/intelligence providers that operate nationwide.  Some even have worldwide coverage.

BUt they lack the ability to arrest, investigate, etc., etc. Again, they could not replace that FBI, for example. They can't get warrants, blahblahblah.

Think how much we could save if we outsourced warrants to private companies. We already have notary publics and other private companies involved in the legal process. Instead of clogging our justice system up with unnecessary cases, have citizens pay a company for a warrant to pursue a criminal investigation. Therefore, those that really want the case to go to court and see the alleged tried will pay more, while those that don't care or are uninterested will not pay and the case does not progress. Either way, the taxpayer saves!
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jimmy olsen

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on June 08, 2011, 10:07:44 PM
I wonder if I could somehow get a Letter of Marque and Reprisal.   :hmm:
Call your congressman, the Constitution gives the congress power to issue them.
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Martinus

Quote from: Berkut on June 08, 2011, 02:07:32 PM
Quote from: Martinus on June 08, 2011, 02:01:39 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on June 08, 2011, 01:52:21 PM
Maybe it wouldn't be unprofitable at a higher price? Fed Ex goes almost anywhere, and I don't know that their pricing is so complicated. Email is the answer.

What about police work? Should individuals living in dangerous neighbourhoods be charged an extra tax to cover extra costs of police work there? Your reasoning leads to madness like this.

I don't think anyone is suggesting that police work be privatized though...are they?

Why is it such an injustice if some people somewhere pay more for mail delivery? There are innumerable advantages and disadvantages to living in various places. What is it about delivery service (but only for 1st class mail, of course - apparently it is perfectly ok that other things that need to be delivered have variable costs) that demands government intervention in order to make sure everyone pays the same?

Isn't first class mail frequently used for official, formal, government, court etc. communication? If so, it is important that all citizens have an equal access to those.

Martinus

Quote from: Berkut on June 08, 2011, 02:15:05 PM
Everything can be electronically transmitted, and when I am sending something that cannot, it is usually something I would Fedex anyway.

Is the entire population of America online? There are no US citizens that have no access to e-mail? If yes, then I guess you are right.

Martinus

Quote from: The Brain on June 08, 2011, 02:37:56 PM
Swedish "Posten" lost its monopoly in 1993. We're doing OK.

But you still have state-owned postal service, right? If so, not sure how your post is relevant. We are talking about the state completely withdrawing from offering postal services.  :huh:

Martinus

Quote from: Berkut on June 08, 2011, 09:20:32 PM
BUt they lack the ability to arrest, investigate, etc., etc. Again, they could not replace that FBI, for example. They can't get warrants, blahblahblah.

What an idiotic retort. Seriously.  :lol:

They can do it. They just need to get a legal authorization to do so. You just argued that private postal service could deliver first class mail and that the state post's monopoly on this should be abolished - so how is this different? Abolish the state monopoly on ability to arrest, investigate or get warrants.  :lol:

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Caliga

Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 08, 2011, 11:03:32 PM
Call your congressman, the Constitution gives the congress power to issue them.
Interesting... I may just have to try that.  I wonder if my Congressman will even know what a letter of marque is. :)
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Razgovory

Quote from: Caliga on June 09, 2011, 06:55:04 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 08, 2011, 11:03:32 PM
Call your congressman, the Constitution gives the congress power to issue them.
Interesting... I may just have to try that.  I wonder if my Congressman will even know what a letter of marque is. :)

Who's your congressmen?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

garbon

Quote from: Razgovory on June 09, 2011, 07:04:22 AM
Quote from: Caliga on June 09, 2011, 06:55:04 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 08, 2011, 11:03:32 PM
Call your congressman, the Constitution gives the congress power to issue them.
Interesting... I may just have to try that.  I wonder if my Congressman will even know what a letter of marque is. :)

Who's your congressmen?

Who isn't his congressmen?
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