NY governor introduces bill to allow gay marriage

[DGuller]

Why the  , derspiess?  Do you think they're going to switch support to Republicans or something?

[Faeelin]

Why the  , derspiess?  Do you think they're going to switch support to Republicans or something?

I might. I'd prefer equality over low taxes, but if that's not on the table...

Besides, every GOP candidate for governor is going to be at least as pro-gay as Obama.

(This view makes me  really popular, as you can imagine).

But I suspect derspsiess is rejoicing at the Democrats collapsing.

[derspiess]

Why the  , derspiess?  Do you think they're going to switch support to Republicans or something?

Nope, just enjoy seeing the other side bicker amongst themselves

[DGuller]

Nope, just enjoy seeing the other side bicker amongst themselves

It sure is more entertaining than watching your own party goose-step in unison, isn't it?

[Faeelin]

Listen, I for one am in awe of the united front of the GOP. You would never notice that the Teabaggers are planning on primarying several candidates in swing districts.

[MadImmortalMan]

Listen, I for one am in awe of the united front of the GOP. You would never notice that the Teabaggers are planning on primarying several candidates in swing districts.

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2009/10/12/Tea-party-backers-target-GOP-candidates/UPI-56481255352449/

I just googled "target of tea party".

[derspiess]

Listen, I for one am in awe of the united front of the GOP. You would never notice that the Teabaggers are planning on primarying several candidates in swing districts.

My party has its own problems.  I never claimed otherwise.

[Faeelin]

As a minor update, New Jersey is now voting on this. It probably won't pass, but it's interesting how it's playing out.

There's a huge generational divide in both parties, while for Republicans who were going to vote yes have basically been told "vote no or else" by the new governor. Like the New York Democrats, there are threats of primary challenges, which have some teeth; and the Senator from Camden who's voting no is getting threatened her city can count on far less in the way of aid from Trenton.

Christie is having fun, of course but may be starting to worry about a purge of moderates in the GOP, as has been threatened.

[Caliga]

Too bad New Jersey no longer has Governor McGreevey 

[Valmy]

Why the  , derspiess?  Do you think they're going to switch support to Republicans or something?

Nope, just enjoy seeing the other side bicker amongst themselves

You do have to wonder if there is ever going to be a showdown between the Black and other minorities base, which seems to be largely against gay rights, and the gay base or if differences can be paved over indefinitely.

[Neil]

You do have to wonder if there is ever going to be a showdown between the Black and other minorities base, which seems to be largely against gay rights, and the gay base or if differences can be paved over indefinitely.

How could the gays manage such a confrontation without immediately being accused of racism?

[Valmy]

How could the gays manage such a confrontation without immediately being accused of racism?

Point out some of their best friends are gay minorities?

[Caliga]

There is a surprisingly large number of gay black men (if you don't believe me, visit Adams Morgan in D.C. sometime), so such a showdown would be pretty interesting.  I would guess that most of them would side with the gay faction over the black faction.

[Ed Anger]

There is a surprisingly large number of gay black men (if you don't believe me, visit Adams Morgan in D.C. sometime), so such a showdown would be pretty interesting.  I would guess that most of them would side with the gay faction over the black faction.

Nobody fears the black guy from Revenge of the Nerds.

[DontSayBanana]

BTW, the NJ debate has been delayed after the Democratic state senators who were going to vote "no" for public image reasons had their offices swamped with angry phone calls/letters/emails.  I believe you still can't get through to Jeff Van Drew's office.