NFL 2011 season

[Barrister]

They're just getting more and more ornate every year, aren't they?

I'm starting to get excited for football again, now that we're in the lull when there's no major sports playing right now.  I hope they can get an agreement worked out in time for me to get my fill of preseason games.

You're in luck.

They're playing pre-season football as we speak.   

[Valmy]

You're in luck.

They're playing pre-season football as we speak.  

I knew you were going to pop in with a CFL plug when I saw Neil's post.

[Grey Fox]

They're just getting more and more ornate every year, aren't they?

I'm starting to get excited for football again, now that we're in the lull when there's no major sports playing right now.  I hope they can get an agreement worked out in time for me to get my fill of preseason games.

You're in luck.

They're playing pre-season football as we speak.   

I was happy to see some football last nite.

My GF on the other hand isn't happy. But atleast, this year she doesn't have to attend any of the Als homegame for work.

[Neil]

They're just getting more and more ornate every year, aren't they?

I'm starting to get excited for football again, now that we're in the lull when there's no major sports playing right now.  I hope they can get an agreement worked out in time for me to get my fill of preseason games.

You're in luck.

They're playing pre-season football as we speak.   

I watched last night.  It just wasn't the same.  Watching NFL scrubs is one thing, but watching CFL scrubs...  Well, you might as well be watching college football. 

Maybe I'll try watching the game tonight.  Watching the Roughriders beat the hated Eskimos always feels nice.

[Barrister]

You're in luck.

They're playing pre-season football as we speak.   

I knew you were going to pop in with a CFL plug when I saw Neil's post.

Personally I can't stand pre-season anything, so I didn't even watch the Bombers play last night.  But the regular season is just around the corner...

[Ed Anger]

I miss the XFL.

[Barrister]

They're just getting more and more ornate every year, aren't they?

I'm starting to get excited for football again, now that we're in the lull when there's no major sports playing right now.  I hope they can get an agreement worked out in time for me to get my fill of preseason games.

You're in luck.

They're playing pre-season football as we speak.   

I watched last night.  It just wasn't the same.  Watching NFL scrubs is one thing, but watching CFL scrubs...  Well, you might as well be watching college football. 

Maybe I'll try watching the game tonight.  Watching the Roughriders beat the hated Eskimos always feels nice.

Well you're the one pining for pre-season football.  I didn't even try to watch.

But once the regular season rolls around...

[Valmy]

I never watch pre-season football.  Talk about a waste of time.

[Valmy]

ESPN ranks the Bengals and Redskins the two worst franchises in the the four major sports leagues:

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/teamrankings

106. Minnesota Vikings
107. Buffalo Bills
108. Seattle Mariners
109. New York Knicks
110. Washington Wizards
111. Florida Panthers
112. Chicago Cubs
113. Detroit Pistons
114. New York Islanders
115. Atlanta Thrashers...er Winnitoba Jet Bears
116. Toronto Raptors
117. New York Mets
118. Minnesota Timberwolves
119. Sacramento Kings
120. Toronto Maple Leafs
121. Washington Redskins
122. Cincinnati Bengals

[Barrister]

How the fuck do the Phoenix Coyotes get listed as 28th?

They've never won a playoff series, have miserable attendance, they delared bankruptcy, and are owned by the league and funded by the City.

Ah, I see - they rank extremely highly for "bang for the buck" and "affordability".  Which is because they barely charge you anything for tickets, and they run such a massive deficit ($35 mil in losses last year alone) that their few wins get counted so highly compared to the minimal revenue they bring in.



Okay, so maybe the Coyotes situation is so screwed up no methodology would work, but this does make me suspicious of the entire list.

Amusing to see the Maple Leafs at 120th though.

[HVC]

Toronto teams have a strong showing in the sucking polls.

[HVC]

Ah, I see - they rank extremely highly for "bang for the buck" and "affordability".  Which is because they barely charge you anything for tickets, and they run such a massive deficit ($35 mil in losses last year alone) that their few wins get counted so highly compared to the minimal revenue they bring in.

So sucking so bad you have to practically give away tickets means you don't actually suck? that's an odd metric.

[Valmy]

So sucking so bad you have to practically give away tickets means you don't actually suck? that's an odd metric.

If you are going to charge alot you better win.  That is one of the big reasons the Redskins and the Leafs rank so low.

[Neil]

They're just getting more and more ornate every year, aren't they?

I'm starting to get excited for football again, now that we're in the lull when there's no major sports playing right now.  I hope they can get an agreement worked out in time for me to get my fill of preseason games.

You're in luck.

They're playing pre-season football as we speak.   

I watched last night.  It just wasn't the same.  Watching NFL scrubs is one thing, but watching CFL scrubs...  Well, you might as well be watching college football. 

Maybe I'll try watching the game tonight.  Watching the Roughriders beat the hated Eskimos always feels nice.

Well you're the one pining for pre-season football.  I didn't even try to watch.

But once the regular season rolls around...

I'm just excited for football.  Preseason just builds anticipation for the real thing.  Obviously I'd rather be watching real NFL football, but I'm willing to settle for preseason or CFL, or just rewatching my copies of Ravens playoff victories.

[Neil]

So sucking so bad you have to practically give away tickets means you don't actually suck? that's an odd metric.

If you are going to charge alot you better win.  That is one of the big reasons the Redskins and the Leafs rank so low.

I was shocked to see that they didn't rank Snyder as the worst owner out there.  I mean, I guess he's not trying to move the franchise, but he's devoted to ruining it.