In NY, many school janitors paid more than teachers

[The Brain]

Immigrants like Dr. Ján Itor are often honest hard-working people.

[Slargos]

I really dislike the unpleasant, classist tone of the detractors in the article.  "Of course a white collar worker should make more than a lowly janitor!"  But as mentioned upthread, the lowly janitor is required to do more work, and very likely, more varied work, without which the entire building would become uninhabitable, a claim that no single teacher can make.  Shockingly, they are paid slightly more.

I'm not sure I like what you are saying. In that direction, the janitor in my building should make more than I or any of the bankers that populate the building.

It's also a bit misleading, as myself, the bankers or teachers could clean the building (we have the ability) but choose to pursue other professions. I'm not sure if that would work from the janitor's position.

I'm just saying it seems like they've gotten a better deal, probably because they have more bargaining power than the teachers.

I'm also echoing the notion that "cleaning" is probably not the most challenging responsibility of custodians.  Yeah, you can hire anyone to do that; you cannot hire just anyone to fix all the routine problems a large building is likely to have.  If really all they're doing is taking out trash, then NYC (or the specific authorities here) could probably cut some expenses, but I don't think that's all there is to it.

The tone, of course, merely annoys me because of the borderline-Victorian umbrage taken at the temerity of the school districts to pay a dirty manual laborer more than a clean knowledge worker.

I am in 100% agreement.

It's filthy, is what it is.

Thinking they are somehow "deserving" of more pay? Bull shit.

[The Brain]

Yeah. Supply, meet demand. END OF FUCKING STORY

Deserve? I don't understand what that means.

[garbon]

Yeah. Supply, meet demand. END OF FUCKING STORY

Apparently there is a lot of scribbling going on in the margins.

[Slargos]

Yeah. Supply, meet demand. END OF FUCKING STORY

Deserve? I don't understand what that means.

It's going to be hilarious to watch all the graduates from the various journalism and sociology programmes scramble for jobs.

I can laugh because it's not going to be my tax money that will fund their "job" hunting. 

[garbon]

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/janitors_clean_up_zEecMaKxzR8m202QAPiVZP

Here's a bit of an article from the NY Post last year:

Head custodians can earn extra income in one of two ways, including through "temporary care" assignments at schools that don't have a permanent custodial engineer. That work typically lasts less than two months but doesn't require that janitors clock in beyond normal work hours.

Head janitors also can pad their pay by helping out at other schools on nights or weekends -- which in Fitzgerald's case nearly doubled his $92,100 base salary.

Radef, a 36-year veteran assigned to Roosevelt HS in The Bronx, earned an extra $53,000 last year by helping out evenings at Truman HS.

[garbon]

It's going to be hilarious to watch all the graduates from the various journalism and sociology programmes scramble for jobs.

Going to be? When have they been in demand? Most soc majors I knew at Stanford went into public school teaching or social work.

[The Brain]

It's going to be hilarious to watch all the graduates from the various journalism and sociology programmes scramble for jobs.

Going to be? When have they been in demand? Most soc majors I knew at Stanford went into public school teaching or social work.

Or?

[Pat]

Yeah. Supply, meet demand. END OF FUCKING STORY

Deserve? I don't understand what that means.

Yeah, pilots should need to sell plasma and work second and third jobs to get by (nevermind they crash a plane once in a while). Source: Michael Moore, great American. 

[The Brain]

Yeah. Supply, meet demand. END OF FUCKING STORY

Deserve? I don't understand what that means.

Yeah, pilots should need to sell plasma and work second and third jobs to get by (nevermind they crash a plane once in a while). Source: Michael Moore, great American. 

[HVC]

This makes sense because people will want to work as teachers because they enjoy teaching, and this should be exploited.

I've only ever met 3 teachers wo actually enjoyed teaching

[Pat]

Yeah. Supply, meet demand. END OF FUCKING STORY

Deserve? I don't understand what that means.

Yeah, pilots should need to sell plasma and work second and third jobs to get by (nevermind they crash a plane once in a while). Source: Michael Moore, great American. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKQJx3L_CDQ

[Slargos]

Yeah. Supply, meet demand. END OF FUCKING STORY

Deserve? I don't understand what that means.

Yeah, pilots should need to sell plasma and work second and third jobs to get by (nevermind they crash a plane once in a while). Source: Michael Moore, great American. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKQJx3L_CDQ

You have to be a real idiot to actually buy Moore's narrative.

"I want the pilot to be paid really well".

Well, gee, ever considered not shopping around for the cheapest air fare with the carrier who flies 40 year old planes duct taped together from scrapped parts.

[Pat]

You have to be a real idiot to actually buy Moore's narrative.

"I want the pilot to be paid really well".

Well, gee, ever considered not shopping around for the cheapest air fare with the carrier who flies 40 year old planes duct taped together from scrapped parts.

The evil state should stay out of stuff like regulating air plane travel Free market principles always lead to best outcome in matters of safety.

[Slargos]

You have to be a real idiot to actually buy Moore's narrative.

"I want the pilot to be paid really well".

Well, gee, ever considered not shopping around for the cheapest air fare with the carrier who flies 40 year old planes duct taped together from scrapped parts.

The evil state should stay out of stuff like regulating air plane travel Free market principles always lead to best outcome in matters of safety.

Nanny state FTW. 

You know what makes me really furious? All the children in day care who are left to play without proper safety equipment. They should all be wearing helmets when they're in the play ground.