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Started by DGuller, April 15, 2011, 03:50:41 PM

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sbr

Quote from: Grey Fox on April 15, 2011, 07:56:38 PM
I used to play on Pokerroom.com, site appears to be operating normally.

They hit the 3 biggest sites, Pokerstars, Full Tilt Poker and Ultimate Bet.  Nothing has happened to any other sites yet, but i am sure they are scared shitless at the moment.

DGuller

Quote from: sbr on April 15, 2011, 08:00:00 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 15, 2011, 07:56:38 PM
I used to play on Pokerroom.com, site appears to be operating normally.

They hit the 3 biggest sites, Pokerstars, Full Tilt Poker and Ultimate Bet.  Nothing has happened to any other sites yet, but i am sure they are scared shitless at the moment.
The sites that didn't allow US players to play should be OK (in fact, they should be making out like bandits).  The sites that are in trouble are those that continued to serve US customers after 2006, and thus had to resort to banking fraud to transfer money to and from the players.

sbr

Quote from: DGuller on April 15, 2011, 08:04:15 PM
Quote from: sbr on April 15, 2011, 08:00:00 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 15, 2011, 07:56:38 PM
I used to play on Pokerroom.com, site appears to be operating normally.

They hit the 3 biggest sites, Pokerstars, Full Tilt Poker and Ultimate Bet.  Nothing has happened to any other sites yet, but i am sure they are scared shitless at the moment.
The sites that didn't allow US players to play should be OK (in fact, they should be making out like bandits).  The sites that are in trouble are those that continued to serve US customers after 2006, and thus had to resort to banking fraud to transfer money to and from the players.

In a big picture general sense, yes this is true.  The question is, are there any other sites that have allowed US players to deposit or withdraw funds since the UIGEA took effect (Dec '08 IIRC?).  If there are, those sites would have had to violate the exact same laws the Big 3 sites did.  There are only the 3 specific sites that have had any legal action taken against them at this point though, so if there are other sites out there they are not specifically affected by today's events, other than as a warning shot.

garbon

Quote from: Neil on April 15, 2011, 04:32:10 PM
This is a good example of how having ridiculous, unenforceable laws breeds contempt for the entire legal system.

Meh, fools will always be quick to be parted with their cash.
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sbr

Quote from: garbon on April 15, 2011, 08:59:20 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 15, 2011, 04:32:10 PM
This is a good example of how having ridiculous, unenforceable laws breeds contempt for the entire legal system.

Meh, fools will always be quick to be parted with their cash.

Exactly, which is why this is so disappointing. :menace:

Tamas

werent there some ban in place already since a couple of years or so?

looks like the brick and mortar casinos can "convince" strongly

sbr

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Quote from: Tamas on April 15, 2011, 09:19:04 PM
werent there some ban in place already since a couple of years or so?

looks like the brick and mortar casinos can "convince" strongly

The law that passed in the US a few years ago said that US based banks and credit card companies couldn't process deposits or withdrawals from internet gambling sites.  The act of playing poker on the internet wasn't effected by that law.

EDIT: Way too many commas.  :blush:

Valmy

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Tamas

Quote from: Valmy on April 15, 2011, 10:26:40 PM
Remember America is all about freedom.

:lol:

Seriously this is way beyond pathetic. The FBI is used to fight for the business interest of the big b&m casinos?

I remember that law, allegedly it was along the lines of "online gambling is dangerous to society!!!! except if its lottery or betting on horse races!"


Ed Anger

Quote from: Valmy on April 15, 2011, 10:26:40 PM
Remember America is all about freedom.

Freedom to commit bank fraud. USA! USA! USA!
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grumbler

I'm glad I got out of this last month.  The roughly ten thousand a year in extra income helped, but the hassle these days just makes online poker not worth it.

I can probably write enough extra short stories to make up for the lost income from online poker.
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

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DontSayBanana

Quote from: grumbler on April 16, 2011, 10:19:51 AM
I'm glad I got out of this last month.  The roughly ten thousand a year in extra income helped, but the hassle these days just makes online poker not worth it.

I can probably write enough extra short stories to make up for the lost income from online poker.

Shame, grumbles.  Internet penis-waving just isn't becoming of you. :P
Experience bij!

grumbler

Quote from: DontSayBanana on April 16, 2011, 10:49:16 AM
Shame, grumbles.  Internet penis-waving just isn't becoming of you. :P
As you should know, claims of success in internet poker are as de rigeur as the dismissal of internet beauties for "pointy elbows."  And no more serious.
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

Bayraktar!

DGuller

Quote from: grumbler on April 16, 2011, 03:50:49 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on April 16, 2011, 10:49:16 AM
Shame, grumbles.  Internet penis-waving just isn't becoming of you. :P
As you should know, claims of success in internet poker are as de rigeur as the dismissal of internet beauties for "pointy elbows."  And no more serious.
Are you denying that you can be making money in online poker, or are you just saying that most of the people who claim to win money actually don't?

Eddie Teach

Most likely the case that 1% of internet poker players are making 90% of any profit that's not going to the house. Rough guesstimates of course.
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