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Started by DGuller, April 15, 2011, 03:50:41 PM

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DGuller

#45
April 16, 2011, 05:44:12 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 16, 2011, 05:37:34 PM
Most likely the case that 1% of internet poker players are making 90% of any profit that's not going to the house. Rough guesstimates of course.
That is true, most people lose at poker.  Of course, weighing it by the head count is probably misleading.  People who play more poker are more likely to be winning at it, and they're also more likely to be talking about it.  Someone who deposited once or twice and never played again is probably going to be less interested in piping in about online poker than someone who played for 5 years and read 30 books on poker.

Drakken

#46
April 16, 2011, 05:55:30 PM Last Edit: April 16, 2011, 06:01:02 PM by Drakken
Most players suck at poker and will play tight passive or like spewing monkeys. Sturgeon's Law at work. We don't suck, we learn to try to take the best decisions over the long run, spot the juiciest tables and own them, so we make money. The key word is : on the long run.

No serious poker player plays without rakeback nowadays. That significantly softens the impact of rake on profits, but it's unavailable outside online poker.

If a player doesn't understand that in poker immediate results does not follow real skill, and that even the most skillful of players will face downswings, then the game is not for him.

DGuller

#47
April 16, 2011, 06:00:54 PM
To be fair, winning at online poker takes way more than just not sucking or tilting these days.  Most tables are filled with people who play for a living, or try to.  This is one of the reasons I largely stopped playing, it was just not fun as a game. 

I much prefer just going to Atlantic City and spending a day in a real casino with real cards and chips, even if I have to drive 2 hours one way.  I think online poker was destroying itself by everyone being overly greedy, and I won't miss it much, although I do miss the $3,500 that I foolishly left there after largely stopping.

Drakken

#48
April 16, 2011, 06:03:43 PM
Quote from: DGuller on April 16, 2011, 06:00:54 PM
To be fair, winning at online poker takes way more than just not sucking or tilting these days.  Most tables are filled with people who play for a living, or try to.  This is one of the reasons I largely stopped playing, it was just not fun as a game. 

I agree. At certain stakes juicy tables simply became rarer, and the competition tougher. I was still playing at stakes in which most players were fishes.

You have the luck to have bricks and mortar tables where you live for cash games, I don't, because the Casino here doesn't even offer 1-2$ NL anymore. The only places I play table poker is in small tournaments.

Razgovory

#49
April 16, 2011, 06:08:52 PM
I'm actually going to a casino tomorrow.  Mostly so I can avoid my mom as she picks through stuff in the basement.  I'll probably only spend about 20 bucks though.  I've never gone to a Casino before.  Oddly the Casino is called the Isle of Capri, and I've been to the real Isle of Capri.  It has a tropical theme which is somewhat different then actual location.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

DGuller

#50
April 16, 2011, 06:13:37 PM
Quote from: Drakken on April 16, 2011, 06:03:43 PM
Quote from: DGuller on April 16, 2011, 06:00:54 PM
To be fair, winning at online poker takes way more than just not sucking or tilting these days.  Most tables are filled with people who play for a living, or try to.  This is one of the reasons I largely stopped playing, it was just not fun as a game. 

I agree. At certain stakes juicy tables simply became rarer, and the competition tougher. I was still playing at stakes in which most players were fishes.

You have the luck to have bricks and mortar tables where you live for cash games, I don't, because the Casino here doesn't even offer 1-2$ NL anymore. The only places I play table poker is in small tournaments.
Do people play in home games where you live?  I also play in a home game with some poker buddies a couple of times a month, which is even more fun than driving to AC.

Ed Anger

#51
April 16, 2011, 06:38:55 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on April 16, 2011, 06:08:52 PM
I'm actually going to a casino tomorrow.  Mostly so I can avoid my mom as she picks through stuff in the basement.  I'll probably only spend about 20 bucks though.  I've never gone to a Casino before.  Oddly the Casino is called the Isle of Capri, and I've been to the real Isle of Capri.  It has a tropical theme which is somewhat different then actual location.

Take only the money you plan on spending. That way, you aren't tempted to plop another hundred on the table.
Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

Razgovory

#52
April 16, 2011, 06:40:11 PM
I'm really not interested in spending anything.  I'll just take a twenty.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Syt

#53
April 17, 2011, 12:11:42 PM
Never played online poker, but every couple weeks I and a few colleagues meet for a poker night. No high stakes, 10 EUR buy in per round; but then we play for fun.
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

Grey Fox

#54
April 17, 2011, 01:14:25 PM
Quote from: Syt on April 17, 2011, 12:11:42 PM
Never played online poker, but every couple weeks I and a few colleagues meet for a poker night. No high stakes, 10 EUR buy in per round; but then we play for fun.

You can play with free money online too. People just tend to suck there.
Colonel Caliga is Awesome.

Ed Anger

#55
April 17, 2011, 01:17:26 PM
Poker with play money:

1st hand:

BiggusDickus: ALL IN!
Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

DGuller

#56
April 17, 2011, 01:22:17 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 17, 2011, 01:14:25 PM
Quote from: Syt on April 17, 2011, 12:11:42 PM
Never played online poker, but every couple weeks I and a few colleagues meet for a poker night. No high stakes, 10 EUR buy in per round; but then we play for fun.

You can play with free money online too. People just tend to suck there.
Playing poker without money is like having sex without nudity.

Admiral Yi

#57
April 17, 2011, 01:23:51 PM
Quote from: DGuller on April 17, 2011, 01:22:17 PM
Playing poker without money is like having sex without nudity.

Terrible analogy.  Sex with your clothes on can be pretty damn good.

DGuller

#58
April 17, 2011, 01:33:37 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 17, 2011, 01:23:51 PM
Quote from: DGuller on April 17, 2011, 01:22:17 PM
Playing poker without money is like having sex without nudity.

Terrible analogy.  Sex with your clothes on can be pretty damn good.
Don't you have to reveal something at some point?  Maybe I should've used "exposure" rather than "nudity".

Ed Anger

#59
September 20, 2011, 06:47:59 PM
They are going after Full Tilt hard now. And Howard whatshisname and the Jesus dude.
Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive
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