Male on Male Rape in US Military

[Neil]

I disagree. Nationalism is the opposite of Tribalism.
Nationalism tries to undermine Tribalism in order to achieve its goals of creating a larger and more powerful social entity.

Nationalism is tribalism with a larger, more broadly defined and better organized tribe.

[Neil]

Homosexuality have always been shun from in the military.

Tell that to all those Greek homos.

[Alcibiades]

"The military doesn't want to talk about it because, as embarrassing as male-female rape is, [from their perspective] this is even worse. The very fact that there's male-on-male rape in the military means that there are warriors who aren't strong enough to fight back."

WTF. I thought all the talk about "warriors" from Siegy was just him being a tribal tard, but they are using this in formal language? WTF? This ain't Diablo or WoW. What has always made the West more civilized and superior to all the tribal shit elsewhere ever since we crawled out of middle ages, is that we have soldiers not warriors.

What? You never heard about the Warrior's Creed?


I am an American Soldier.
I am a Warrior and a member of a team.
I serve the people of the United States and live the Army Values.
I will always place the mission first.
I will never accept defeat.
I will never quit.
I will never leave a fallen comrade.
I am disciplined, physically and mentally tough, trained and proficient in my warrior tasks and drills.
I always maintain my arms, my equipment and myself.
I am an expert and I am a professional.
I stand ready to deploy, engage, and destroy the enemies of the United States of America in close combat.
I am a guardian of freedom and the American way of life.
I am an American Soldier

That's the Soldiers Creed, and you highlighted the Warrior ethos, moron.

[Siege]

TL, DR.

About that russian dude in the first paraghraph.
He must really be a fag weak mothefucker.
I mean, I ain't defending the faggots the raped him.
It is gay wether your are giving or taking. (Yeah, in middle eastern culture giving is nowhere near as bad as taking)

However, the dude is friggin what? 35? Really? And he can't own that friggin basic training platoon?

I don't know if you guys remember when I told you years ago about the egyptian dude that was with me in basic?
He wasn't in my platoon but he was in my company.
There were a bunch of foreign previous service dudes in my basic training company.
This egyptian guy didn't get raped, but he got beaten the fuck up, and not by me.
Why? He was weak. He was a fucking pussy, drafted into the egyptian army back when he was 18, but not a fucking warrior.
Brand new american soldiers, 18 or so, can smell weakness from 100 miles away. Especially in older men with previous service.
Especially in foreign men with previous military service.

So this egyptian dude got beaten, and he quit. Just like that. Didn't even got through half basic, let alone graduation and the crossed rifle ceremony.

Now, this russian dude in the op, did he really got raped?
I don't know.
I have to tell you though, from my basic training experience, which I went through 3 times in 3 diferent countries before serving in 3 diferent wars in 2 diferent continents, in basic training, nobody can get the dick up, not even for masturbation, especially not in Week Two. Are you fucking kidding me? Week 2 you are still under Total Control. You can't fucking BREATHE without you Drill Sergeant knowing you are fucking breathing.

I say this story is bullshit.

If is real the details MUST be wrong.

My first reaction to this article was :  lol wut?
champagne socialist?  


But siegy is kind of right, nobody really has any desire for quite a long time, I don't think I had the urge for the entire 3 months.  You're surrounded by dudes, and you don't see any women at all.

And the second part, where he says it happened in week 2?  You are literally supervised 24 hours a day by a drill sergeant, never left alone for the first 4 weeks.  And then they scale it back.

So....what ever you champagne socialist.

Yeah. We used to joke that they were putting something in our food so our dicks wouldn't work.
In reality of course, it was just the stress of basic training.

People don't realize that in basic training everything is contraband, from cigarrettes and candy, to pornography and alcohol.

[Siege]

“The military doesn't want to talk about it because, as embarrassing as male-female rape is, [from their perspective] this is even worse. The very fact that there's male-on-male rape in the military means that there are warriors who aren't strong enough to fight back.”

WTF. I thought all the talk about "warriors" from Siegy was just him being a tribal tard, but they are using this in formal language? WTF? This ain't Diablo or WoW. What has always made the West more civilized and superior to all the tribal shit elsewhere ever since we crawled out of middle ages, is that we have soldiers not warriors.

What? You never heard about the Warrior's Creed?


I am an American Soldier.
I am a Warrior and a member of a team.
I serve the people of the United States and live the Army Values.
I will always place the mission first.
I will never accept defeat.
I will never quit.
I will never leave a fallen comrade.
I am disciplined, physically and mentally tough, trained and proficient in my warrior tasks and drills.
I always maintain my arms, my equipment and myself.
I am an expert and I am a professional.
I stand ready to deploy, engage, and destroy the enemies of the United States of America in close combat.
I am a guardian of freedom and the American way of life.
I am an American Soldier

That's the Soldiers Creed, and you highlighted the Warrior ethos, moron.

Fuck you, faggot.
I had to many beers today.
I started at a mexican restaurant, by the way, where I saw a dude that looked just like Jaron.

[Siege]

Hey, Alcifaggot, do you know your Commissioned Officer's Creed?


No one is less professional than I. I am a Commissioned Officer, definitively not a leader of soldiers. As a Commissioned Officer, I realize that I am not a member of any time honored corps, let alone one which is known as "The Backbone of the Army". I am ashamed of the Corps of Commissioned Officers and will at all times conduct myself so as to bring discredit upon the Corps, the Military Service and my country regardless of the situation in which I find myself. I will always use my grade and position to attain pleasure, profit, and personal safety.

Incompetence is my watchword. My two basic responsibilities will always be farthest from my mind -- accomplishment of my mission and the welfare of my soldiers. I will strive to remain technically and tactically deficient. I am unaware of my role as a Commissioned Officer. I will unfulfill my responsibilities inherent in that role. All soldiers are entitled to outstanding leadership; I will definitively not provide that leadership. I don't know my soldiers and I will never place their needs above my own. I will communicate unconsistently with my soldiers and always leave them uninformed. I will be unfair and partial when recommending both rewards and punishment.

NCOs of my unit will have minimum time to accomplish their duties; they will have to accomplish mine. I will earn their disrespect and unconfidence as well as that of my soldiers. I will be disloyal to those with whom I serve; seniors, peers, and subordinates alike. I will exercise initiative by taking unappropriate action in the presence of orders. I will compromise my integrity, and my moral courage. I will not remember, nor will I allow my comrades to remember that we are suppossed to be professionals, Commissioned Officers, leaders!

[Eddie Teach]

Alci should have you court martialed.

[dps]

I saw the words "US military" and vomited.

Lucky you, that I wasn't there to make you eat your vomit.

Fortunately, he doesn't need anyone to make him do it.

[merithyn]

Hey, Alcifaggot, do you know your Commissioned Officer's Creed?


No one is less professional than I. I am a Commissioned Officer, definitively not a leader of soldiers. As a Commissioned Officer, I realize that I am not a member of any time honored corps, let alone one which is known as "The Backbone of the Army". I am ashamed of the Corps of Commissioned Officers and will at all times conduct myself so as to bring discredit upon the Corps, the Military Service and my country regardless of the situation in which I find myself. I will always use my grade and position to attain pleasure, profit, and personal safety.

Incompetence is my watchword. My two basic responsibilities will always be farthest from my mind -- accomplishment of my mission and the welfare of my soldiers. I will strive to remain technically and tactically deficient. I am unaware of my role as a Commissioned Officer. I will unfulfill my responsibilities inherent in that role. All soldiers are entitled to outstanding leadership; I will definitively not provide that leadership. I don't know my soldiers and I will never place their needs above my own. I will communicate unconsistently with my soldiers and always leave them uninformed. I will be unfair and partial when recommending both rewards and punishment.

NCOs of my unit will have minimum time to accomplish their duties; they will have to accomplish mine. I will earn their disrespect and unconfidence as well as that of my soldiers. I will be disloyal to those with whom I serve; seniors, peers, and subordinates alike. I will exercise initiative by taking unappropriate action in the presence of orders. I will compromise my integrity, and my moral courage. I will not remember, nor will I allow my comrades to remember that we are suppossed to be professionals, Commissioned Officers, leaders!

Hey, Siege? You realize that Alci was infantry for a few years before going into Officers' Training, right? He's done what you do... and now he's learning how to do it better and how to teach it to others better.

In other words, you're not only dumber than him; you're worth less. Literally.

[garbon]

And Meri comes out swinging for no apparent reason.

[DGuller]

Isn't Alci a neighbor of Meri and Max?  That's an apparent enough reason.

[Slargos]

Hey, Alcifaggot, do you know your Commissioned Officer's Creed?


No one is less professional than I. I am a Commissioned Officer, definitively not a leader of soldiers. As a Commissioned Officer, I realize that I am not a member of any time honored corps, let alone one which is known as "The Backbone of the Army". I am ashamed of the Corps of Commissioned Officers and will at all times conduct myself so as to bring discredit upon the Corps, the Military Service and my country regardless of the situation in which I find myself. I will always use my grade and position to attain pleasure, profit, and personal safety.

Incompetence is my watchword. My two basic responsibilities will always be farthest from my mind -- accomplishment of my mission and the welfare of my soldiers. I will strive to remain technically and tactically deficient. I am unaware of my role as a Commissioned Officer. I will unfulfill my responsibilities inherent in that role. All soldiers are entitled to outstanding leadership; I will definitively not provide that leadership. I don't know my soldiers and I will never place their needs above my own. I will communicate unconsistently with my soldiers and always leave them uninformed. I will be unfair and partial when recommending both rewards and punishment.

NCOs of my unit will have minimum time to accomplish their duties; they will have to accomplish mine. I will earn their disrespect and unconfidence as well as that of my soldiers. I will be disloyal to those with whom I serve; seniors, peers, and subordinates alike. I will exercise initiative by taking unappropriate action in the presence of orders. I will compromise my integrity, and my moral courage. I will not remember, nor will I allow my comrades to remember that we are suppossed to be professionals, Commissioned Officers, leaders!

Hey, Siege? You realize that Alci was infantry for a few years before going into Officers' Training, right? He's done what you do... and now he's learning how to do it better and how to teach it to others better.

In other words, you're not only dumber than him; you're worth less. Literally.

Connect-four!

C-c-c-c-c-ombo!

[garbon]

Isn't Alci a neighbor of Meri and Max?  That's an apparent enough reason.

We're almost neighbors. Don't expect the same service.

[merithyn]

And Meri comes out swinging for no apparent reason.

On the best of days, Siegey drives me crazy. Listening to him go on and on about how Alci is less than him because Alci is going to be an officer pushed all the wrong buttons. It deserved to be pointed out that Alci was a peon first, and an officer second.

Isn't Alci a neighbor of Meri and Max?  That's an apparent enough reason.

And yes, he's a neighbor and a friend. And a hell of a guy that I have a great deal of respect for. I don't like him much since his most recent trip, but I still think he's a great guy in general.

[CountDeMoney]

It deserved to be pointed out that Alci was a peon first, and an officer second.

And don't think for a moment all the West Pointers won't let him know it, either.