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Male on Male Rape in US Military

Started by jimmy olsen, April 06, 2011, 10:59:36 PM

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Eddie Teach

Quote from: Neil on April 07, 2011, 08:15:39 AM
And now the pendulum is swinging back to warriors with the rise of the professional militaries. 

No it's not. Discipline and obedience are still hallmarks of a modern military.
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

KRonn

Quote from: Berkut on April 07, 2011, 08:56:00 AM
QuoteIn fact, it is the high victimization rate of female soldiers—women in the armed forces are now more likely to be assaulted by a fellow soldier than killed in combat—that has helped cast light on men assaulting other men.

I love comments like this. The use of "now" to imply that this is some kind of growing problem, the "high" victimization rate based on a completely spurious comparison...

It's nice to come across a comment like this and realize the author has an agenda, and you can assume the rest of the article is just as dishonest and full of shit as this comment. It's like a little marker that saves me from having to read the rest of the article. I only wish it had been the FIRST comment, to save me even more time.
Yeah, given that female soldiers aren't in front line combat units, infantry, etc - jobs which are heavily male, even though women in support roles still come under fire and suffer casualties. So it would seem to make sense that crimes against women are much more likely than combat casualties.    :hmm:

The Brain

I saw the words "US military" and vomited.
Women want me. Men want to be with me.

Valmy

Quote from: Grallon on April 07, 2011, 09:41:30 AM
Raping is a common behavior in any male dominated army - whether 'intra muros' or against outsiders.  One could call it an extension of their training.  At various periods throughout History soldiers/warriors would routinely rape the defeated enemy to mark their superiority - because as we all know - penetration is for many the ultimate proof of one's manhood.

You have a historical example of a mass rape of a defeated army? 
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

BuddhaRhubarb

:p

Alcibiades

#20
Quote from: Siege on April 07, 2011, 12:58:53 AM
TL, DR.

About that russian dude in the first paraghraph.
He must really be a fag weak mothefucker.
I mean, I ain't defending the faggots the raped him.
It is gay wether your are giving or taking. (Yeah, in middle eastern culture giving is nowhere near as bad as taking)

However, the dude is friggin what? 35? Really? And he can't own that friggin basic training platoon?

I don't know if you guys remember when I told you years ago about the egyptian dude that was with me in basic?
He wasn't in my platoon but he was in my company.
There were a bunch of foreign previous service dudes in my basic training company.
This egyptian guy didn't get raped, but he got beaten the fuck up, and not by me.
Why? He was weak. He was a fucking pussy, drafted into the egyptian army back when he was 18, but not a fucking warrior.
Brand new american soldiers, 18 or so, can smell weakness from 100 miles away. Especially in older men with previous service.
Especially in foreign men with previous military service.

So this egyptian dude got beaten, and he quit. Just like that. Didn't even got through half basic, let alone graduation and the crossed rifle ceremony.

Now, this russian dude in the op, did he really got raped?
I don't know.
I have to tell you though, from my basic training experience, which I went through 3 times in 3 diferent countries before serving in 3 diferent wars in 2 diferent continents, in basic training, nobody can get the dick up, not even for masturbation, especially not in Week Two. Are you fucking kidding me? Week 2 you are still under Total Control. You can't fucking BREATHE without you Drill Sergeant knowing you are fucking breathing.

I say this story is bullshit.

If is real the details MUST be wrong.


My first reaction to this article was :  lol wut?
champagne socialist?   :lol:


But siegy is kind of right, nobody really has any desire for quite a long time, I don't think I had the urge for the entire 3 months.  You're surrounded by dudes, and you don't see any women at all.

And the second part, where he says it happened in week 2?  You are literally supervised 24 hours a day by a drill sergeant, never left alone for the first 4 weeks.  And then they scale it back.

So....what ever you champagne socialist.
Wait...  What would you know about masculinity, you fucking faggot?  - Overly Autistic Neil


OTOH, if you think that a Jew actually IS poisoning the wells you should call the cops. IMHO.   - The Brain

Caliga

I saw female recruits on Parris Island. :perv:
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: Grallon on April 07, 2011, 09:41:30 AM
Raping is a common behavior in any male dominated army - whether 'intra muros' or against outsiders.  One could call it an extension of their training.  At various periods throughout History soldiers/warriors would routinely rape the defeated enemy to mark their superiority - because as we all know - penetration is for many the ultimate proof of one's manhood.

It's threads like these that make me miss rufweed.

Habbaku

The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

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Neil

#24
Siegebreaker would never rape a soldier.  Unless he got posted to one of those places with child soldiers, in which case he'd be on that like it was a twelve-year old Palestinian girl.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

Siege

Quote from: Tyr on April 07, 2011, 04:54:43 AM
Its not gay if you're the giver. :contract:

Fuck no. That's as gay as taking it.

If you really think about it, giving is even more gay than taking it, because you have to actually get it up getting exited by a dude.
It doens't get any gayer than this.



"All men are created equal, then some become infantry."

"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't."

"Laissez faire et laissez passer, le monde va de lui même!"


Siege

Quote from: Martinus on April 07, 2011, 01:28:34 AM
Quote"The military doesn't want to talk about it because, as embarrassing as male-female rape is, [from their perspective] this is even worse. The very fact that there's male-on-male rape in the military means that there are warriors who aren't strong enough to fight back."

WTF. I thought all the talk about "warriors" from Siegy was just him being a tribal tard, but they are using this in formal language? WTF? This ain't Diablo or WoW. What has always made the West more civilized and superior to all the tribal shit elsewhere ever since we crawled out of middle ages, is that we have soldiers not warriors.


What? You never heard about the Warrior's Creed?


I am an American Soldier.
I am a Warrior and a member of a team.
I serve the people of the United States and live the Army Values.
I will always place the mission first.
I will never accept defeat.
I will never quit.
I will never leave a fallen comrade.
I am disciplined, physically and mentally tough, trained and proficient in my warrior tasks and drills.
I always maintain my arms, my equipment and myself.
I am an expert and I am a professional.
I stand ready to deploy, engage, and destroy the enemies of the United States of America in close combat.
I am a guardian of freedom and the American way of life.
I am an American Soldier



"All men are created equal, then some become infantry."

"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't."

"Laissez faire et laissez passer, le monde va de lui même!"


Siege

Quote from: Maximus on April 07, 2011, 08:19:16 AM
It's the inevitable result of nationalism, which is just tribalism on a larger scale.

I disagree. Nationalism is the opposite of Tribalism.
Nationalism tries to undermine Tribalism in order to achieve its goals of creating a larger and more powerful social entity.



"All men are created equal, then some become infantry."

"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't."

"Laissez faire et laissez passer, le monde va de lui même!"


Siege

Quote from: Grallon on April 07, 2011, 09:41:30 AM
Raping is a common behavior in any male dominated army - whether 'intra muros' or against outsiders.  One could call it an extension of their training.  At various periods throughout History soldiers/warriors would routinely rape the defeated enemy to mark their superiority - because as we all know - penetration is for many the ultimate proof of one's manhood.



G.



You are talking out of your ass.
Not a surprise, to say the least.
Homosexuality have always been shun from in the military.
Yes, we are constantly making gay jokes, but that doesn't mean gayness is acceptable. On the contrary.



"All men are created equal, then some become infantry."

"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't."

"Laissez faire et laissez passer, le monde va de lui même!"


Siege

Quote from: The Brain on April 07, 2011, 10:47:55 AM
I saw the words "US military" and vomited.

Lucky you, that I wasn't there to make you eat your vomit.



"All men are created equal, then some become infantry."

"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't."

"Laissez faire et laissez passer, le monde va de lui même!"