Game of Thrones begins....

[Tamas]

Yeah that was pretty gross.

One thing I was thinking about: supposedly, while book 3 will be this season and the next one, then they are going to condense the next two books. Which they are perfectly right to do so, since if you were to follow Book 4 and 5 religiously, they would lose all viewers as they would slowly fall into a coma one by one.
But... Will they not catch up to the books if they do so? Martin needs to hurry the fuck up.

[Martinus]

I think the second half of book 3, book 4 and book 5 will be all used as a material for the next two seasons (i.e. season 4 and 5) - books 4 and 5 are happening simultaneously anyway, so there is no way they are going to split them the way GRRM split the books.

By that time, hopefully, the fat man will catch up.

That being said, as far as I am concerned, I am much more invested in the show than in the books right now (I can't even bring myself to finish the fifth book, despite trying it in print form and as an audiobook) so D&D can simply take over from there and continue doing the show using Martin's ideas as a fodder for their creativity.

[jimmy olsen]

Yeah that was pretty gross.

One thing I was thinking about: supposedly, while book 3 will be this season and the next one, then they are going to condense the next two books. Which they are perfectly right to do so, since if you were to follow Book 4 and 5 religiously, they would lose all viewers as they would slowly fall into a coma one by one.
But... Will they not catch up to the books if they do so? Martin needs to hurry the fuck up.

Well page wise, books 4 and 5 would merit three or four seasons at the pace they're setting, however I'm sure they'll just condense it down to two seasons. He might be able to publish one book in that time, but he sure as hell isn't publishing two.

[Viking]

Also, isn't it funny that in the episode so filled with torture and murder, probably the most disturbing image was Brienne in that pink dress? 

And yes - Olenna is becoming my favorite character.  This episode - while less overly dramatic - was one of the most fulfilling.  Amazing how so many things can be made to move without much appearing to do so.  But I won't pick up the books until the fat man is done with them.



G.

Before thinking the whole thing through I sad last night at our group watching of AGOT that Olenna was the person in AGOT that I'd most like to have for dinner. People mostly nodded in agreement. And then I continued that this remained the case even though bookreaders know what she does with Sansa's hair net.

[The Larch]

Poor poor Ros...   

[Viking]

Poor poor Ros...   

What with both [spoiler]Tyrion[/spoiler] and Littlefinger leaving kings landing there is no longer a need for a "generic" prostitute in Kings Landing.

[The Larch]

Poor poor Ros...   

What with both [spoiler]Tyrion[/spoiler] and Littlefinger leaving kings landing there is no longer a need for a "generic" prostitute in Kings Landing.

They could still milk the character out for another season. Then again in the books Chataya and Alayaya stopped being relevant around the same point in the story, IIRC.

[Viking]

What about the merging of Gendry Waters and Edric Storm? Will it work? Will Lettow sqee when we get to see an increased focus on Shireen leading to the release of Davos on her initiative and an end of season Davos reading a letter.

[The Larch]

Poor poor Ros...   

What with both [spoiler]Tyrion[/spoiler] and Littlefinger leaving kings landing there is no longer a need for a "generic" prostitute in Kings Landing.

They could still milk the character out for another season. Then again in the books Chataya and Alayaya stopped being relevant around the same point in the story, IIRC.

Now that I remember, at some point in the third book Cersei tells Tyrion something like "I found your whore and dealt with her" when she wanted to get back at him for something, and he freaked out thinking it was Shae but turned out to have been Alayaya. Did that happen like that?

[Viking]

Poor poor Ros...   

What with both [spoiler]Tyrion[/spoiler] and Littlefinger leaving kings landing there is no longer a need for a "generic" prostitute in Kings Landing.

They could still milk the character out for another season. Then again in the books Chataya and Alayaya stopped being relevant around the same point in the story, IIRC.

Now that I remember, at some point in the third book Cersei tells Tyrion something like "I found your whore and dealt with her" when she wanted to get back at him for something, and he freaked out thinking it was Shae but turned out to have been Alayaya. Did that happen like that?

She arrested Alayaya and had her tortured after Tyrion had promised to do to Tommen what Cersei did to Alayaya. The scene starts with cersei declaring he has her whore and Tyrion being afraid for Shae and then Cersei brings in Alayaya and Alayaya plays Tyrion's whore for Cersei.

Once the battle was over and Tyrion was missing Tyrion's minions switched sides to Tywin and Cersei and got Tommen released and Alayaya was released covered in scars.

[Martinus]

What about the merging of Gendry Waters and Edric Storm? Will it work? Will Lettow sqee when we get to see an increased focus on Shireen leading to the release of Davos on her initiative and an end of season Davos reading a letter.

I think it's a good idea. We are invested in Gendry but introducing a new character called Edric Storm who pretty much serves the same purpose would be redundant.

[Viking]

What about the merging of Gendry Waters and Edric Storm? Will it work? Will Lettow sqee when we get to see an increased focus on Shireen leading to the release of Davos on her initiative and an end of season Davos reading a letter.

I think it's a good idea. We are invested in Gendry but introducing a new character called Edric Storm who pretty much serves the same purpose would be redundant.

I think this is a bit of signalling. So far Gendry has only really be relevant as being the spitting image of Young Robert/Renly at two points as seen by first Ned and later by Brienne. Edric on the other hand sits on Dragonstone [spoiler]on the edge of being burned by Melisandre for the power of his blood.[/spoiler] At some point his live will be in danger and possibly lost, how does Gendry return from that. Martin's sacrificial characters Ned and [spoiler]Robb______[/spoiler] were made real so we would care when they died. Gendry hasn't done that, I think Gendry is coming back and to be honest I ship Gendry/Arya.

Maybe I'm confused and read too much into the conspiracy theories on the forums. Seriously, Shireen Baratheon = Stone Dragon.. or even edric being burnd with an egg on dragonstone creating the stone dragon for shireen (who has targaryen blood). I just think merging Gendry and Edric adds a whole bunch of spanners into the works.

[Grey Fox]

I thought my wife was going to throw up during the Ramsey/Theon scenes.

What he do?

Man, I really need an HD TV, to me it just seemed like blood on his little finger.

[The Minsky Moment]

.  Amazing how so many things can be made to move without much appearing to do so.  But I won't pick up the books until the fat man is done with them.

You are putting a lot of reliance on the skills of America's cardiac specialists.

[Queequeg]

.  Amazing how so many things can be made to move without much appearing to do so.  But I won't pick up the books until the fat man is done with them.

You are putting a lot of reliance on the skills of America's cardiac specialists.

I'm kind of surprised there hasn't been some kind of fan petition to get GRRM's stomach stapled.