Game of Thrones begins....

[Habbaku]

I think he was prepared, but doesn't like to be reminded.

[Martinus]

I gotta say I really liked the last episode. I think the show has finally picked its pace this season - until now it felt to me like there have been a lot of interesting scenes, but it felt like "exposition" too much, setting up the pieces as it were.

Now the pieces started moving.

I especially enjoyed the Harrenhall parts.

[Martinus]

Why are you so afraid of things coming out of vaginas grey wolfe?

Must be all the post-STD traumas.

[Josephus]

I gotta say I really liked the last episode. I think the show has finally picked its pace this season - until now it felt to me like there have been a lot of interesting scenes, but it felt like "exposition" too much, setting up the pieces as it were.

Now the pieces started moving.

I especially enjoyed the Harrenhall parts.

The show does pack a lot in one hour.

[Martinus]

One of the "critical recaps" of the last episode I read made me realize probably why I liked the Harrenhall sequences the most - they are the most like the books, in that they show the entire Harrenhall experience through the eyes of Arya alone, and noone else's.

Every other location in the show is being shown in a more "typical tv show" sense (even Qarth has scenes that happen without Danny witnessing them directly, for example), not to mention the King's Landing or the Renly's camp which gets shown through numerous points of view - compare this to Harrenhall where we see only what Arya sees. Even Tywin's councils are shown only to the extent she sees them, and all other characters interact only with her. So that's most like the book.

[Zoupa]

Agreed.

Yes, I said I wouldn't watch it anymore, sue me. 

That scene when she says "Anyone can be killed" and doesn't look away from Tywin: not in the book, but pretty freaking awesome.

Arya always was my favourite character, and so far the show hasn't ruined her. 

[Jaron]

Renly

[Sophie Scholl]

Renly

Should have bent the knee.  He bends both of them for Loras.

[Solmyr]

Renly

He bends both of them for Loras.

Wasn't it the other way around?

[Martinus]

Renly

Should have bent the knee.  He bends both of them for Loras.

Stannis is a dishonorable murderer and a kinslayer. His claim to the throne is also not stronger than that of other pretenders, really, unless you are happy to engage in some serious sophistry. I hope he gets his come-uppance.

[Eddie Teach]

Stannis is a dishonorable murderer and a kinslayer. His claim to the throne is also not stronger than that of other pretenders, really, unless you are happy to engage in some serious sophistry. I hope he gets his come-uppance.

He is Renly's older brother, so unless the strength of their claims is zero, his is greater.

[grumbler]

Stannis is a dishonorable murderer and a kinslayer. His claim to the throne is also not stronger than that of other pretenders, really, unless you are happy to engage in some serious sophistry. I hope he gets his come-uppance. 

A self-proclaimed lawyer arguing that inheritance laws are merely "serious sophistry?"  Say it ain't so!

If Joffrey and his sibs are not Robert's heirs, then Stannis is.

If you wanted to engage in serious sophistry, you could argue that Stannis had voided his claims by using sorcery to kill his brother, I suppose.  But that would be contrary to anything we know about the law of the land.  If Stannis is the rightful king, then Renly was in open rebellion against his rightful king, and Stannis was no more wrong for using sorcery to kill him than Aegon was for using sorcery (dragons) to kill Haren the Black.

[jimmy olsen]

Dany is the one true Queen!

[Valmy]

His claim to the throne is also not stronger than that of other pretenders

Well he is the only remaining pretender to the Iron Throne so I guess that is true.

[grumbler]

His claim to the throne is also not stronger than that of other pretenders

Well he is the only remaining pretender to the Iron Throne so I guess that is true.

Daenarys is also a pretender to the Iron Throne.