Game of Thrones begins....

[Jacob]

Does the fifth book end the series, or does Martin require further volumes to wrap up the story?

[syk]

Two more books are planned.

[Josquius]

So many lawful good characters were killed already. I hope Martin gives us a break and lets Jon survive after all. I don't find him boring at all. Predictable in his actions maybe but not boring. The Dorne chapters/characters however were skipworthy boring. Even despite some random hotness in there.

Agreed, I hate the Dorne bits.

[Razgovory]

So many lawful good characters were killed already. I hope Martin gives us a break and lets Jon survive after all. I don't find him boring at all. Predictable in his actions maybe but not boring. The Dorne chapters/characters however were skipworthy boring. Even despite some random hotness in there.

Agreed, I hate the Dorne bits.

This is a major problem in the books.  As it goes on, the boring parts begin to outnumber the interesting parts.

[Siege]

This. Jon is almost certainly Lyanna's and Rhaegar's son (not sure but even Martin could have commented on that already), but Tyrion is more of a crazy conspiracy theory.

This is what I've been thinking all along.  1/3 the way through the last book, though, so I didn't know John dies yet, assholes.

Don't worry, you can be sure he ain't really dead.
No with Melissandre right next to him.

[Jacob]

Two more books are planned.

Awh fuck.

[Scipio]

Two more books are planned.

Awh fuck.

Good news, though.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/these-last-two-are-gonna-be-real-turds-george-rr-m,26934/

[Hansmeister]

Can't wait until the first season hits digital download.

I can buy it for $3 on the Haji market.  I'm sure it is totally legit.

[viper37]

Im afraid The GRRM kill him, and all the hopes for Jon Targaryen are irrelevant now.
It is his greatness to make us emotionally invested on his characters, and then make us suffer when he kills them.
I cannot recall other writter with the balls to kill his main characters.
To me it is mindblowing, and more realistic.

Well, I didn't know he was dead, and as others said, it means nothing.  Lots of people are supposed dead and seem to come back.
And it might be mindblowing, but it's starting to annoy me.  Fuck, no one will be fully alive by the time he ends his books.

[Jacob]

Well, I didn't know he was dead, and as others said, it means nothing.  Lots of people are supposed dead and seem to come back.
And it might be mindblowing, but it's starting to annoy me.  Fuck, no one will be fully alive by the time he ends his books.

Yeah exactly. Once, it's kind of cool. More than once and it's lame. Especially if you include the bits where a chapter ends with someone seemingly getting killed, but then a few chapters later it turns out they were just knocked out.

[Solmyr]

So many lawful good characters were killed already. I hope Martin gives us a break and lets Jon survive after all. I don't find him boring at all. Predictable in his actions maybe but not boring. The Dorne chapters/characters however were skipworthy boring. Even despite some random hotness in there.

I wouldn't consider Jon lawful good. He's not exactly "always by the rules" type of guy, he does many things he personally thinks are good but go against the established traditions. More like chaotic good.

[syk]

So many lawful good characters were killed already. I hope Martin gives us a break and lets Jon survive after all. I don't find him boring at all. Predictable in his actions maybe but not boring. The Dorne chapters/characters however were skipworthy boring. Even despite some random hotness in there.

I wouldn't consider Jon lawful good. He's not exactly "always by the rules" type of guy, he does many things he personally thinks are good but go against the established traditions. More like chaotic good.

You're probably right. I just wanted to point out that I perceive him and the Starks as the clearest hero material in the books.

[Scipio]

Martin got out-Martined by Joe Abercrombie.  Joe went darker faster and better than Martin, and more rationally, too.

[grumbler]

Martin got out-Martined by Joe Abercrombie.  Joe went darker faster and better than Martin, and more rationally, too.

That'[s true.  I didn't care about any of Abercrombie's characters in the First Law series by the end of the third chapter.  With Martin, that took till the end of the third book.

I am ambivalent about reading more Martin, but Abercrombie convinced me in three books that I don't want to read any more.  Abercrombie is faster and better in that regard, as well.

[Siege]

Joe Abercrombie sucks.

No maps?