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Slargos

#1125
May 21, 2011, 07:14:06 AM
Quote from: Viking on May 21, 2011, 04:39:05 AM
Quote from: Slargos on May 20, 2011, 05:41:22 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on May 20, 2011, 05:33:04 PM
Quote from: Slargos on May 20, 2011, 05:00:18 PM
Gotta say, it clearly appears the writers of GoT agree with my opinion on Sandor.  :hmm:

What was your opinion of Sandor?

That he is essentially a righteous man.  :hmm:

Mycah begs to differ.

Mycah doesn't have a say any more.

Regardless, he's no more a villain for killing Mycah than Stark is for killing Lady.

jimmy olsen

#1126
May 21, 2011, 07:23:34 AM
Quote from: Slargos on May 21, 2011, 07:14:06 AM
Quote from: Viking on May 21, 2011, 04:39:05 AM
Quote from: Slargos on May 20, 2011, 05:41:22 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on May 20, 2011, 05:33:04 PM
Quote from: Slargos on May 20, 2011, 05:00:18 PM
Gotta say, it clearly appears the writers of GoT agree with my opinion on Sandor.  :hmm:

What was your opinion of Sandor?

That he is essentially a righteous man.  :hmm:

Mycah begs to differ.

Mycah doesn't have a say any more.

Regardless, he's no more a villain for killing Mycah than Stark is for killing Lady.
:rolleyes:

Lady is a wolf, Mycah is a human being, they're not the same.
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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1 Karma Chameleon point

Viking

#1127
May 21, 2011, 07:31:46 AM
Quote from: Slargos on May 21, 2011, 07:14:06 AM
Quote from: Viking on May 21, 2011, 04:39:05 AM
Quote from: Slargos on May 20, 2011, 05:41:22 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on May 20, 2011, 05:33:04 PM
Quote from: Slargos on May 20, 2011, 05:00:18 PM
Gotta say, it clearly appears the writers of GoT agree with my opinion on Sandor.  :hmm:

What was your opinion of Sandor?

That he is essentially a righteous man.  :hmm:

Mycah begs to differ.

Mycah doesn't have a say any more.

Regardless, he's no more a villain for killing Mycah than Stark is for killing Lady.

Agreed, Ned's "Ai wass djost fallawink orders" schtick don't work. Both Arya and Sansa saw threw it and they are just little brats.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

grumbler

#1128
May 21, 2011, 07:52:41 AM
Quote from: Viking on May 21, 2011, 07:31:46 AM
Quote from: Slargos on May 21, 2011, 07:14:06 AM
Regardless, he's no more a villain for killing Mycah than Stark is for killing Lady.

Agreed, Ned's "Ai wass djost fallawink orders" schtick don't work. Both Arya and Sansa saw threw it and they are just little brats.
So unjustly killing a wolf is as villainous as unjustly killing a person?  Is that your position?  Because that is the position to which you just "agreed."

Kinda curious how far your equivalence to a human goes, below wolves.  Is unjustly killing a bird as  as villainous as unjustly killing a person?  A snail?  A microbe?
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

Bayraktar!

Viking

#1129
May 21, 2011, 08:00:51 AM
Quote from: grumbler on May 21, 2011, 07:52:41 AM
Quote from: Viking on May 21, 2011, 07:31:46 AM
Quote from: Slargos on May 21, 2011, 07:14:06 AM
Regardless, he's no more a villain for killing Mycah than Stark is for killing Lady.

Agreed, Ned's "Ai wass djost fallawink orders" schtick don't work. Both Arya and Sansa saw threw it and they are just little brats.
So unjustly killing a wolf is as villainous as unjustly killing a person?  Is that your position?  Because that is the position to which you just "agreed."

Kinda curious how far your equivalence to a human goes, below wolves.  Is unjustly killing a bird as  as villainous as unjustly killing a person?  A snail?  A microbe?

They are merely ink on paper. Both are mere plot devices. It's fiction dickwad.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Eddie Teach

#1130
May 21, 2011, 08:07:57 AM
Quote from: grumbler on May 21, 2011, 07:52:41 AM
So unjustly killing a wolf is as villainous as unjustly killing a person?  Is that your position?  Because that is the position to which you just "agreed."

Depends on the wolf, I suppose. It would be in Narnia or Middle Earth, probably not in Westeros though.
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

Slargos

#1131
May 21, 2011, 08:23:20 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 21, 2011, 07:23:34 AM
Quote from: Slargos on May 21, 2011, 07:14:06 AM
Quote from: Viking on May 21, 2011, 04:39:05 AM
Quote from: Slargos on May 20, 2011, 05:41:22 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on May 20, 2011, 05:33:04 PM
Quote from: Slargos on May 20, 2011, 05:00:18 PM
Gotta say, it clearly appears the writers of GoT agree with my opinion on Sandor.  :hmm:

What was your opinion of Sandor?

That he is essentially a righteous man.  :hmm:

Mycah begs to differ.

Mycah doesn't have a say any more.

Regardless, he's no more a villain for killing Mycah than Stark is for killing Lady.
:rolleyes:

Lady is a wolf, Mycah is a human being, they're not the same.

Why not?

Slargos

#1132
May 21, 2011, 08:28:01 AM
Quote from: grumbler on May 21, 2011, 07:52:41 AM
Quote from: Viking on May 21, 2011, 07:31:46 AM
Quote from: Slargos on May 21, 2011, 07:14:06 AM
Regardless, he's no more a villain for killing Mycah than Stark is for killing Lady.

Agreed, Ned's "Ai wass djost fallawink orders" schtick don't work. Both Arya and Sansa saw threw it and they are just little brats.
So unjustly killing a wolf is as villainous as unjustly killing a person?  Is that your position?  Because that is the position to which you just "agreed."

Kinda curious how far your equivalence to a human goes, below wolves.  Is unjustly killing a bird as  as villainous as unjustly killing a person?  A snail?  A microbe?

For all intents and purposes, equivalence can be measured in the amount of empathy someone feels for the subject. Killing a little girl's beloved puppy is more villainous than killing her paedophile step-father.

You atheists crossed that line when you determined humans have no souls and as such are no more or less worth than any other conglomerate of molecules OTHER than in their value to others.

Viking

#1133
May 21, 2011, 08:28:29 AM
BTW, I expect Sansa to warg into Sandor before the series is over.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

grumbler

#1134
May 21, 2011, 08:30:56 AM
Quote from: Viking on May 21, 2011, 08:00:51 AM
They are merely ink on paper. Both are mere plot devices. It's fiction dickwad.
:lol:  "They are merely ink on paper" and you get your panties so far in a wad that you start throwing out the personal insults?

Very mature.  :bowler:
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

Bayraktar!

Viking

#1135
May 21, 2011, 08:31:08 AM
Quote from: Slargos on May 21, 2011, 08:28:01 AM
Quote from: grumbler on May 21, 2011, 07:52:41 AM
Quote from: Viking on May 21, 2011, 07:31:46 AM
Quote from: Slargos on May 21, 2011, 07:14:06 AM
Regardless, he's no more a villain for killing Mycah than Stark is for killing Lady.

Agreed, Ned's "Ai wass djost fallawink orders" schtick don't work. Both Arya and Sansa saw threw it and they are just little brats.
So unjustly killing a wolf is as villainous as unjustly killing a person?  Is that your position?  Because that is the position to which you just "agreed."

Kinda curious how far your equivalence to a human goes, below wolves.  Is unjustly killing a bird as  as villainous as unjustly killing a person?  A snail?  A microbe?

For all intents and purposes, equivalence can be measured in the amount of empathy someone feels for the subject. Killing a little girl's beloved puppy is more villainous than killing her paedophile step-father.

You atheists crossed that line when you determined humans have no souls and as such are no more or less worth than any other conglomerate of molecules OTHER than in their value to others.

You are an atheist as well :contract:

How does anything follow from atheism?
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Viking

#1136
May 21, 2011, 08:32:05 AM
Quote from: grumbler on May 21, 2011, 08:30:56 AM
Quote from: Viking on May 21, 2011, 08:00:51 AM
They are merely ink on paper. Both are mere plot devices. It's fiction dickwad.
:lol:  "They are merely ink on paper" and you get your panties so far in a wad that you start throwing out the personal insults?

Very mature.  :bowler:

I always throw insults at you, you are richly deserving of them.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

grumbler

#1137
May 21, 2011, 08:32:40 AM
Quote from: Slargos on May 21, 2011, 08:28:01 AM
You atheists crossed that line when you determined humans have no souls and as such are no more or less worth than any other conglomerate of molecules OTHER than in their value to others.
Red herring much?
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

Bayraktar!

Slargos

#1138
May 21, 2011, 08:39:05 AM
Quote from: Viking on May 21, 2011, 08:31:08 AM

You are an atheist as well :contract:

How does anything follow from atheism?

Am I? I really don't know.

It doesn't, really.

Slargos

#1139
May 21, 2011, 08:40:00 AM
Quote from: grumbler on May 21, 2011, 08:32:40 AM
Quote from: Slargos on May 21, 2011, 08:28:01 AM
You atheists crossed that line when you determined humans have no souls and as such are no more or less worth than any other conglomerate of molecules OTHER than in their value to others.
Red herring much?

A bumblebee died on my floor this morning. A very sad sight.

How is that death any less filled with meaning than any random death of a person I feel nothing for?
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