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Started by Josquius, April 04, 2011, 03:39:14 AM

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grumbler

#570
April 28, 2011, 01:56:15 PM
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on April 28, 2011, 01:49:24 PM
The discussion of where the plot is going and if will ever be wrapped up in a legitimate manner reminds me of the old Lost discussions.  Or the BSG discussions as Grumbler mentioned.  Hod willing, this one actually works out.  Or, at the least, works out better than those two.
Yes.  I may not be happy with the latest turns in martin's writing style, but no one here would be happier than me to see the story end well.
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Barrister

#571
April 28, 2011, 02:11:54 PM
Well unlike those shows it is pretty clear that Martin has an overall direction and plotline in mind.  So I doubt very much the ending will be a trainwreck.

It may only be 'so-so', but he will arrive at a coherent climax.

If he finishes it at all that is.
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Maximus

#572
April 28, 2011, 02:20:03 PM
Isn't Dragons supposed to be the last book? It is finished.

Barrister

#573
April 28, 2011, 02:22:38 PM
Quote from: Maximus on April 28, 2011, 02:20:03 PM
Isn't Dragons supposed to be the last book? It is finished.

:console:

It's a planned 7 book series.

Next two books are The Winds of Winter and A Dream of Spring.
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Josquius

#574
April 28, 2011, 02:23:17 PM
Which will probally be split again into 2 each.
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Maximus

#575
April 28, 2011, 02:25:04 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 28, 2011, 02:22:38 PM

:console:

It's a planned 7 book series.

Next two books are The Winds of Winter and A Dream of Spring.
if so, plans have changed. Dragons and Crows were originally supposed to be one book, and I was pretty sure it was supposed to be the last one.

Barrister

#576
April 28, 2011, 02:31:48 PM
Quote from: Maximus on April 28, 2011, 02:25:04 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 28, 2011, 02:22:38 PM

:console:

It's a planned 7 book series.

Next two books are The Winds of Winter and A Dream of Spring.
if so, plans have changed. Dragons and Crows were originally supposed to be one book, and I was pretty sure it was supposed to be the last one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_song_of_ice_and_fire

Plans have changed many times, but I don't think Dragions was ever designed to be the last book.
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Valmy

#577
April 28, 2011, 02:33:19 PM
Quote from: Maximus on April 28, 2011, 02:25:04 PM
if so, plans have changed. Dragons and Crows were originally supposed to be one book, and I was pretty sure it was supposed to be the last one.

Where did you hear this?  Originally there were supposed to be two books after Dragons.  GRRM just inserted another book in there.
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Maximus

#578
April 28, 2011, 02:37:35 PM
Ok, must have been wrong. That being the case I agree it won't likely get finished. His progress seems to be flattening out asymptotically.

Valmy

#579
April 28, 2011, 02:39:57 PM
Quote from: Maximus on April 28, 2011, 02:37:35 PM
Ok, must have been wrong. That being the case I agree it won't likely get finished. His progress seems to be flattening out asymptotically.

It is certainly is a possibility.  I think there is too much financial pressure with the HBO series to state for sure that it is more likely to not be finished than finished (after all he is supposedly 5/7s of the way there) but I would not be shocked either way.

At least he finished this one eh?
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Razgovory

#580
April 28, 2011, 03:47:51 PM
I wonder if the HBO series will finish one way and the books another.  That is if they go for like seven seasons.
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#581
April 28, 2011, 05:31:05 PM
Assuming that the show goes on for that long (unlikely, but I can be hopeful), I believe that HBO, if they "catch up" to Martin's current writing, will actually finish the show however they please, albeit with advice from Martin.
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grumbler

#582
April 28, 2011, 05:34:16 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 28, 2011, 02:11:54 PM
Well unlike those shows it is pretty clear that Martin has an overall direction and plotline in mind.  So I doubt very much the ending will be a trainwreck.
Gee, where have I heard this before? :hmm:
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MadImmortalMan

#583
April 28, 2011, 05:37:03 PM
Well, my DVR bricked itself this weekend. Just in time.  <_<

Hopefully there will be reruns galore.
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grumbler

#584
April 28, 2011, 05:39:01 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on April 28, 2011, 03:47:51 PM
I wonder if the HBO series will finish one way and the books another.  That is if they go for like seven seasons.
That's an interesting question, and an equally interesting one is whether HBO has a better chance of finishing the series before cancellation than GRRM has of finishing before he is cancelled.
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