Game of Thrones begins....

[Grallon]

The going rumor is - season 8 will be delayed to 2019... with potentially six 1.5-2h long episodes.  Also there's also a leaked copy of episode one of S8 out there...  If the content of it is true then it's getting cheesier folks.



G.

[katmai]

Since production of season eight doesn't even start till October....

[Kleves]

This episode was the first time that the fast travel stuff really bugged me. Even if a dragon flies at the speed of a 747, I don't see all the travel in this episode working out.

[Berkut]

Whats annoying about it is that again, IT ISN'T NECESSARY!

It's just lazy writing.

[Josephus]

I was kinda surprised they spent so much time on the Quest in the North.  Fan service, I suppose.

And the zombie dragon, as I predicted.  Now we know how the Wall will be destroyed.

I found the battle at the frozen lake very dissatisfying after the battles we've seen in the past couple of episodes.  The zombies totally surround them, and yet Jon keeps having them 'retreat."  Where are they retreating to, and why aren't zombies already there?  The whole thing just didn't work for me.

Also...why did the zombies just stop?

[Zanza]

Poor episode.

So all it took was one raven and Dany was off with her three dragons to safe the day where she didn't believe them earlier? Why didn't she just fly them there in the first place? And why didn't her dragons just immediately roast the Night King instead of focusing on the zombie hordes? That would have ended the war then and there.

[grumbler]

Also...why did the zombies just stop?

To give Dani time to show up and get drawn into the trap?

Bigger question:  why didn't the Night King kill the stationary dragon right in front of him (dooming Danaerys in the process) rather than the flying one further away?

[Josquius]

Well...

1: Scales get more and more screwed up. That they could get a guy to run back to the wall, send a raven to dragonstone, and have the dragons arrive all in the course of, what, 2/3 days max? Probably less?

2: Zombie dragon. Well. That answers that recurring question. Saw it coming.

3: Have they ever mentioned the Dragon has 3 heads in the series or is that just the books? As....yeah....Looks like that has fallen by the way side.

4: The zombies...they moved very odd. Very Evil Dead like. Not realistic.

5: It was hard to keep track of who was dying. How many red shirts were there? Thoros got a big send off but otherwise?

6: Interesting to see the Dragon-Bus for the first time. So easy too.

7: Benjen was just....what the hell? A: Why was there no time for him to ride the horse too? B: It really seems like there was a moment of  "Oh, there's a loose end with him. We have to kill him on screen". Pff.

8: My theory... The Walkers can warg into zombies. Thats why that one stayed alive. Its where the killed walker has transferred. Thats why the zombies really wanted it back. And why the show was careful to always hide its face.

I was kinda surprised they spent so much time on the Quest in the North.  Fan service, I suppose.

And the zombie dragon, as I predicted.  Now we know how the Wall will be destroyed.

I found the battle at the frozen lake very dissatisfying after the battles we've seen in the past couple of episodes.  The zombies totally surround them, and yet Jon keeps having them 'retreat."  Where are they retreating to, and why aren't zombies already there?  The whole thing just didn't work for me.

Also...why did the zombies just stop?

I think they have issues with crossing water?

But then we later clearly saw them still going in the water....

[Grallon]

Since production of season eight doesn't even start till October....

The script - not the episode itself.

[katmai]

Since production of season eight doesn't even start till October....

The script - not the episode itself.

Ah...gotcha

[Grinning_Colossus]

Once you have a location on your map, fast travel is enabled. Nothing unrealistic about that.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

Whats annoying about it is that again, IT ISN'T NECESSARY!

It's just lazy writing.

it probably rubbed of from the lazy writer who needs to finish his bloody books! 

[Razgovory]

Poor episode.

So all it took was one raven and Dany was off with her three dragons to safe the day where she didn't believe them earlier? Why didn't she just fly them there in the first place? And why didn't her dragons just immediately roast the Night King instead of focusing on the zombie hordes? That would have ended the war then and there.

Yeah, I wasn't that impressed.  The quest to take a zombie prisoner doesn't make a lot of sense, particularly if Dany can just fly over there in an afternoon.

Also I don't quite understand the logic of "We can't kill the Night King because that'll kill the all the Wights and we won't be able to bring back an animated Wight to convince people to fight the Night King".

I imagine the writer watching the finished products saying "Man, this made a lot more sense in my head".

[Berkut]

I always imagine that a lot of these scenes were it just doesn't work as a whole are a product of writing by committee, where there isn't anyone to step in and say "Wait a minute - none of this makes any fucking SENSE!"


And then I think "Well, maybe there is such a person, and maybe they just don't care whether it makes sense or not. They care about whether it is visually appealing, fits into the time budget, and can be done in the cost budget...".


Could you imagine Martin writing something so shoddy from a story perspective?

[Habbaku]

Last night's episode was the first time I've worried that the show won't be able to stick the landing in the final season.