[Canada] Canadian Politics Redux

[Jacob]

I suppose it's not relevant that Levant himself engages in the exactly the same practices he decries in the government: http://canadalandshow.com/article/ezra-levants-goons-threw-me-out-his-open-non-partisan-public-meeting

[Malthus]

I suppose it's not relevant that Levant himself engages in the exactly the same practices he decries in the government: http://canadalandshow.com/article/ezra-levants-goons-threw-me-out-his-open-non-partisan-public-meeting

You expect him to do weird shit, being that he's an extreme right wing fringe creeper and all, and (one hopes) hold the actual government to somewhat higher standards! 

[Barrister]

I suppose it's not relevant that Levant himself engages in the exactly the same practices he decries in the government: http://canadalandshow.com/article/ezra-levants-goons-threw-me-out-his-open-non-partisan-public-meeting

Levant is a private citizen.  He can invite whomever he wants to his own events, and bar anyone he wants.

The Government however is subject to the Charter of Rights.  It can not discriminate based on political belief.  Freedom of the press is enshrined in the Constitution, and the government must respect that.

None of which is necessarily an endorsement of Ezra.  Hell I've known the man for years and I'm not exactly a fan.  But he and his organization have rights that must be respected.

[Jacob]

I suppose it's not relevant that Levant himself engages in the exactly the same practices he decries in the government: http://canadalandshow.com/article/ezra-levants-goons-threw-me-out-his-open-non-partisan-public-meeting

Levant is a private citizen.  He can invite whomever he wants to his own events, and bar anyone he wants.

The Government however is subject to the Charter of Rights.  It can not discriminate based on political belief.  Freedom of the press is enshrined in the Constitution, and the government must respect that.

None of which is necessarily an endorsement of Ezra.  Hell I've known the man for years and I'm not exactly a fan.  But he and his organization have rights that must be respected.

Yeah, I know. That's why I suppose it's not that relevant. Still it's at least mildly ironic

[Josephus]

Key points from the http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/alberta/alberta-government-admits-mistake-says-no-media-to-be-excluded-for-now/article28784286/?click=sf_globe article, which is pretty much what i said

Oates said Tuesday that the pair had not signed up ahead of time for the royalty review news conference – as required from all media – and therefore couldn't attend.

As for the Trudeau visit, the legislature was under tight security and only mainstream media organizations and accredited legislature press gallery members were allowed, she said.

[Barrister]

Key points from the http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/alberta/alberta-government-admits-mistake-says-no-media-to-be-excluded-for-now/article28784286/?click=sf_globe article, which is pretty much what i said

Oates said Tuesday that the pair had not signed up ahead of time for the royalty review news conference – as required from all media – and therefore couldn't attend.

As for the Trudeau visit, the legislature was under tight security and only mainstream media organizations and accredited legislature press gallery members were allowed, she said.

Except that doesn't match - at all - with what the Alberta Justice lawyer said, which was

Thank you for your letter of February 8th, 2016.

Our client's position remains that your client and those who identify as being connected to your client are not journalists and are not entitled to access media lock-ups or other such events.

Thank you for writing.

It also doesn't match with what the journalists were told - that they were on a "no go" list.

[Admiral Yi]

They walked back too far, so they're walking back from their walk back.

[Josephus]

Key points from the http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/alberta/alberta-government-admits-mistake-says-no-media-to-be-excluded-for-now/article28784286/?click=sf_globe article, which is pretty much what i said

Oates said Tuesday that the pair had not signed up ahead of time for the royalty review news conference – as required from all media – and therefore couldn't attend.

As for the Trudeau visit, the legislature was under tight security and only mainstream media organizations and accredited legislature press gallery members were allowed, she said.

Except that doesn't match - at all - with what the Alberta Justice lawyer said, which was

Thank you for your letter of February 8th, 2016.

Our client's position remains that your client and those who identify as being connected to your client are not journalists and are not entitled to access media lock-ups or other such events.

Thank you for writing.

It also doesn't match with what the journalists were told - that they were on a "no go" list.

Pfffft...who is more truthful...lawyers or journalists?

[Maximus]

Pfffft...who is more truthful...lawyers or journalists?

[Barrister]

Key points from the http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/alberta/alberta-government-admits-mistake-says-no-media-to-be-excluded-for-now/article28784286/?click=sf_globe article, which is pretty much what i said

Oates said Tuesday that the pair had not signed up ahead of time for the royalty review news conference – as required from all media – and therefore couldn't attend.

As for the Trudeau visit, the legislature was under tight security and only mainstream media organizations and accredited legislature press gallery members were allowed, she said.

Except that doesn't match - at all - with what the Alberta Justice lawyer said, which was

Thank you for your letter of February 8th, 2016.

Our client's position remains that your client and those who identify as being connected to your client are not journalists and are not entitled to access media lock-ups or other such events.

Thank you for writing.

It also doesn't match with what the journalists were told - that they were on a "no go" list.

Pfffft...who is more truthful...lawyers or journalists?

The lawyers and the journalists agree on this one.

The one who disagrees is Cheryl Oates, the Premier's Communications Director.

And I'm pretty sure we can both agree that amongst the least truthful people are government PR hacks.

[Josephus]

Any PR hacks really.

Or as we in journalism call them: "Sell-outs!"

[viper37]

Key points from the http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/alberta/alberta-government-admits-mistake-says-no-media-to-be-excluded-for-now/article28784286/?click=sf_globe article, which is pretty much what i said

Oates said Tuesday that the pair had not signed up ahead of time for the royalty review news conference – as required from all media – and therefore couldn't attend.

As for the Trudeau visit, the legislature was under tight security and only mainstream media organizations and accredited legislature press gallery members were allowed, she said.

Except that doesn't match - at all - with what the Alberta Justice lawyer said, which was

Thank you for your letter of February 8th, 2016.

Our client's position remains that your client and those who identify as being connected to your client are not journalists and are not entitled to access media lock-ups or other such events.

Thank you for writing.

It also doesn't match with what the journalists were told - that they were on a "no go" list.

Pfffft...who is more truthful...lawyers or journalists?

That's a trick question!

[Monoriu]

On the trust scale -

Lawyers > Politicians > Journalists

[Barrister]

Any PR hacks really.

Or as we in journalism call them: "Sell-outs!"

That's because you're jealous of their steady paycheques.

[crazy canuck]

Key points from the http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/alberta/alberta-government-admits-mistake-says-no-media-to-be-excluded-for-now/article28784286/?click=sf_globe article, which is pretty much what i said

Oates said Tuesday that the pair had not signed up ahead of time for the royalty review news conference – as required from all media – and therefore couldn't attend.

As for the Trudeau visit, the legislature was under tight security and only mainstream media organizations and accredited legislature press gallery members were allowed, she said.

Except that doesn't match - at all - with what the Alberta Justice lawyer said, which was

Thank you for your letter of February 8th, 2016.

Our client's position remains that your client and those who identify as being connected to your client are not journalists and are not entitled to access media lock-ups or other such events.

Thank you for writing.

It also doesn't match with what the journalists were told - that they were on a "no go" list.

Why doesn't it match?  Seems pretty simple. They were not accredited so of course they were not allowed in.  Unless of course one is looking for a reason to criticize a particular government...