[Canada] Canadian Politics Redux

[Josephus]

If he has a majority in 2026, he won't need an election until 2029. That's a solid from a government perspective.

Floor crossings will continue. If he undermines the cons further, forcing PP's resignation, the conservatives  will choose another mediocrity, so Carney will be PM until 2038. That's a long haul.

And if an election was cold today, he would have a massive majority.  So again, why focus on a narrow majority?

Bird in the hand I suppose.

Absolutely.  Elections are, despite poll numbers, hard to predict. Anything can happen during a campaign. Why risk it, when courting floor crossers is so much less messy

[mongers]

We have six wild fires in BC. Historically low snow pack in the interior and the coast means this is going to be a bad wild fire year.

 

Early Spring here has already been unusual dry, this might be the new normal? 

[Grey Fox]

We have six wild fires in BC. Historically low snow pack in the interior and the coast means this is going to be a bad wild fire year.

 

Early Spring here has already been unusual dry, this might be the new normal? 

For you, maybe. But BC its the first time in 43 years. Things will swing around a couple more times before the new normal is established.

Southern Quebec just had it's longest winter in, what I figure is, a decade and half. Everything is wet.

[crazy canuck]

It's official. The liberals are now the majority government with two by election victories in the Ontario writings.


There is a chance the Liberals win all three by-elections.  The one in Quebec is too close to call and will again come down to the wire, and probably a recount.

[Bauer]

Well I for one am glad we won't be voting for awhile.  In 3 years time we should be able to expect some tangible results from Carneys many initiatives.  I can't imagine PP is still around by then...

[crazy canuck]

Yeah, in three years time, the political landscape will look very different.

[Norgy]

I sat down and watched a speech by Carney. The man has a statesman's aura about him. I think you are lucky to have him in these times of transition.

[viper37]

I sat down and watched a speech by Carney. The man has a statesman's aura about him. I think you are lucky to have him in these times of transition.

Try to find some of Pierre Poilièvre speeches for comparison.   

[crazy canuck]

I sat down and watched a speech by Carney. The man has a statesman's aura about him. I think you are lucky to have him in these times of transition.

The search engine for this site is mercifully terrible. But if you ever get bored, you can search for posts from when Carney was entering the political realm. For a number of years, I was saying that he was the obvious choice to take over the liberal party once Trudeau inevitably failed. The responses varied from Carney who, to posts from Sheilbh and BB in which they took the position that he would never make a strong politician and would never be popular as a banker.

This has been a head scratcher for me. I just did not understand how people could not see what was right in front of them.

A more recent example is the sabre rattling Trump did and people took it seriously that he was actually going to launch a land invasion of Iran. That was so blatantly obviously a bluff.

I know I keep  harping on about this, but I think one of main factors that explains how people here can have such wildly divergent views is the loss of a common reference point for news.  So many people here get their news from social media and so necessarily, their world view and the way they perceive the world is deeply impacted by whatever social media personalities they're watching.

Another good example of that happened most recently in this thread is Valmy posting something he saw on YouTube from a hedge fund manager that was filled with accuracies. But Valmy accepted it all at face value, and it actually influenced the way he viewed how things work in Canada.

Another good example are the intellectually dishonest infomercials PP was putting out about what caused the increase in housing prices in Canada. BB bought that hook line and sinker.  If BB had read any of the thoughtful analysis that was being published in the globe and mail newspaper around that time explaining all of the causes, dating back decades, he would've been better equipped to know that his party leader was spouting bullshit.

And I think things are just going to get worse as people uncritically watch more and more AI generated material on social media that will impact their perception of the world and in turn their political views.

I've said it before and I'll continue to say it. Orwell got a lot of things right. But the thing he got wrong is it doesn't take an oppressive state to dumb us down. We did that to ourselves voluntarily by watching social media.

[Bauer]

I was uncertain of Carneys political skill but he's always been an obvious star candidate otherwise.  The world needs more business leaders in politics (just not Trump).

Carneys speaking ability and personality has been a surprise, he's definitely not a dull banker.

[crazy canuck]

Yeah, his star quality was undeniable. And I knew about his personality from his years as the governor of the Bank of Canada. He was well known for his wit.

I didn't foresee him becoming the force on the international stage he has become. I thought he would he would be well respected on the international stage, given all of his experience, and I have been pleasantly surprised to see what he has become.

[HVC]

I was uncertain of Carneys political skill but he's always been an obvious star candidate otherwise.  The world needs more business leaders in politics (just not Trump).

Carneys speaking ability and personality has been a surprise, he's definitely not a dull banker.

I like carney, I think he's doing well so far, but I'm also unsure if he'd have had a chance against anyone besides Mr. P. Liberal fatigue was real and in a normal election Carney had some weaknesses that could have hurt. To butcher the Nixon quote, only Poilievre can lose to Carney. His maple MAGA gambit failed so bad that he lost his own riding.

[HVC]

Carney and Finnish pm play a little shinny.

[crazy canuck]

I was uncertain of Carneys political skill but he's always been an obvious star candidate otherwise.  The world needs more business leaders in politics (just not Trump).

Carneys speaking ability and personality has been a surprise, he's definitely not a dull banker.

I like carney, I think he's doing well so far, but I'm also unsure if he'd have had a chance against anyone besides Mr. P. Liberal fatigue was real and in a normal election Carney had some weaknesses that could have hurt. To butcher the Nixon quote, only Poilievre can lose to Carney. His maple MAGA gambit failed so bad that he lost his own riding.

What conservative leader do you think would've beat Carney?

[crazy canuck]

Can't make this stuff up.  PP said Carney is " badly educated in economics".