[Canada] Canadian Politics Redux

[Grey Fox]

What's happening in Quebec?

Our election is a year a way and the governing party is poise to get wiped out.

It's creating a lot of internal drama in the other parties.

And for some reason the leader of the leading party in the polls, the PQ with 39%, has decided to throw rocks in his pond.

[Jacob]

Our election is a year a way and the governing party is poise to get wiped out.

It's creating a lot of internal drama in the other parties.

And for some reason the leader of the leading party in the polls, the PQ with 39%, has decided to throw rocks in his pond.

What are the key scandals and issues being hashed out? What are the key election issues shaping up to be? And what are the likely outcomes of the election?

[Bauer]

What is it with liberals and Quebec scandals 

[viper37]

Eh, I'm fucked too. 20 years of QS voting down the drain because it's all pro-religion bullshit nowadays. I miss GND.

The Independant Party is growing its base. Soon, they will have their revenge...

[viper37]

Our election is a year a way and the governing party is poise to get wiped out.

It's creating a lot of internal drama in the other parties.

And for some reason the leader of the leading party in the polls, the PQ with 39%, has decided to throw rocks in his pond.

What are the key scandals and issues being hashed out? What are the key election issues shaping up to be? And what are the likely outcomes of the election?

Liberals: financing issues, again.  Allegedly, some money exchanged to vote for their current leaders.  Public funds used to finance party activities.  One MP who decided integrity was above party politics and she was cast out by their leader.  Now, there's a petition to throw out the leader.

CAQ: Everything they do seems... I don't know, butched?  Half baked?  They have some good ideas, but like they don't think things through.  Like you submit your school work and it's half done, filled with grammar error and redacted by ChatGPT with false citations, I don't know how to describe it?  

Their latest healthcare bill has parts of it that were good, but others that contained glaring mistakes and others that infuriates doctors because they hold them to standards that are impossible to achieve given they won't ever have the means to achieve them.  Rather than discuss this with them as they were doing (they were making some progress, some pilot programs were apparently planned), despite things moving a tad slowly, they decide to go for the nuke option.  Now doctors are rebelling and it ain't pretty.  It's like the little push they needed for many of them to shut down their clinic and move to a province when high income earners are taxed less.

Québec Solidaire:  The militant base is radical left.  No other way to put it.  Ultra feminist, hard left, intersectional whatever.  They ask for purity tests from their candidates.  They consider white men to be their enemies, and French Quebecers to be colonial racists.  If you don't agree, you're part of the problem.  Some of their good MPs already left, now a not so convinced one has left, slamming the door behind him.  But, that's not the worst.  The worst is that in the last by elections, the party not only didn't make any real effort to take the ridings (which is understandable, you don't want to wast money&resources on unwinnable elections), but they left their candidate entirely alone for the duration of the election and the election night.  Not a single MP went to visit during the campaign or the election night, leaving a recruit all alone with her family.  This is discouraging for new militants who would aspire to join their ranks.  Party support is eroding.

It is not my favorite party, I think everyone knows my political alignment  , but I am highly critical of any political party that leaves its recruits all alone.  


Parti Québécois 
Paul St-Pierre Plamondon is Québécor's tool.  He speaks for Pierre-Karl Péladeau.  He reacts to every front page of their main media, Le Journal de Montréal/Québec. Their columnists have switched from moderate CAQ support to heavy PQ anti-Québec Solidaire and CAQ stance.  It's showing in the polls.  TVA (#1 tv network, with its continuous tv news channel LCN) is heavily pro-PQ in its positive comments, with moderate Liberal commenters to give a neutral appearance.

He does not manufacture outrage, but he aptly uses it, pushing the front page news toward the political arena.  He's a populist, a demagogue, and he has a lot of support.  He began quietly, posing as the intellectual above the melee, but now that he has build his support, he shows his true colors.  No different than Amir Khadir was.  

Targeting journalists, posing as a victim of media manipulation, shifting the blame subtly from the immigration to the immigrants, then calling on them to support independence as patriots, now calling the cultural actors "traitors" simply for neutrally congratulating a newly nominated ministers.

But what is worst?  After the shock, people are now defending him: he was right.  They were really traitors.  They were double faced.  They weren't resistant, they were collaborators all along.

I may profoundly dislike the Federal government and its use of propaganda, but I don't blame the actors of one sector for doing exactly what PSPP and everyone else did when Trump was elected: charming the snake.

[Jacob]

Thanks for the overview

[Grey Fox]

Yeah, it's a good overview. I disagree with little, mainly PKPs influence on PSPP.

Jacob, you also asked what the issues of the next election will be.

I think Bill 2 and fixing the Doctor exodus it has created will be a big talking point.

The PQ are independentist and leading the polls, they will push that talking point as long as they can. The Liberals will react to that trying to gain a foothold with francophone voters and carve some seats out of the PQ wall.

The CAQ will try to rally the 65% of voters that say they don't want a referendum with having 8 years of disastrous governance as their legacy.

QS is irrelevant outside of deep immigrant Montréal.

Viper didn't mention them but we also have Conservative party that rallied the Pro-death COVID deniers in 2022. I don't know what to think about their chances in this election. Maybe 1 MP out of Beauce, probably not. Their leader is unpopular with his MAGA base.