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Started by Josephus, March 22, 2011, 09:27:34 PM

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Jacob

LOL yeah, I understood Viper to be saying that Joly was offering Quebec to Trump which would be alarming, unusual, and essentially traitorous.

That a Liberal politician said something cack-handed that empowers separatists and gets Viper up in arms is still interesting, but orders of magnitude less concerning

viper37

Quote from: Jacob on November 24, 2025, 12:33:48 PMLOL yeah, I understood Viper to be saying that Joly was offering Quebec to Trump which would be alarming, unusual, and essentially traitorous.

That a Liberal politician said something cack-handed that empowers separatists and gets Viper up in arms is still interesting, but orders of magnitude less concerning
Not up in arms.  Just wondering why now.  Why do they all come out now with these crack pot theories while seperatists are really low in polls.  Meh.  Just curious.
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

Jacob

So apparently Canadian former Olympic Snowboarder Ryan Wedding is now a major drug lord, wanted by the US and hiding in Mexico: https://www.thetimes.com/article/e189a4db-f944-48aa-9a21-a280cb9d97c4?shareToken=5f4e4e4ec073ca5b7108cd02cfa8bf85

crazy canuck

A retired CBC reporter has been active on Instagram.  A lot of his stuff is hilarious and this is one of his best bits - America we have moved on, stop being so cringe.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DRd1-J7CUco/?igsh=a2ZtZmd0OGE1dXJ5

Awarded 17 Zoupa points

In several surveys, the overwhelming first choice for what makes Canada unique is multiculturalism. This, in a world collapsing into stupid, impoverishing hatreds, is the distinctly Canadian national project.

Jacob

QuoteWorld-famous brewing institution leaving U.S. for Canada

A renowned American beer brewing school is heading north and getting ready to settle in at a new address in Montreal.

Since 1872, the famed Siebel Institute of Technology has taught generations of beer brewers the fine art and science of the craft in Chicago. But in a statement on social media, the school says it has chosen to relocate to Canada, pointing to policies enacted under the Trump administration for its decision.

"Recent regulatory changes in the U.S. have made it much more challenging for many of our international students, who have become the majority of our student body, to attend classes in person," John Hannafan, the institute's director of education, wrote. "This relocation of North America classroom operations to Montreal allows us to pivot without sacrificing the student experience."

The last call for Siebel in the U.S. will come in January 2026. After that, it will take residence in its new location in Montreal. The non-descript building is a few blocks from the original site of Molson's, the oldest operating brewery in North America.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/business/article/world-famous-brewing-institution-leaving-us-for-canada/

Bauer

So the pipeline mou has finally been struck.  I haven't delved deep in it yet but it seems like the approach that should always have been taken by government.

- sets certain conditions that have to be met:  industrial carbon pricing, carbon capture, etc
- removes artificial government rules like cap on emissions and tanker ban
- lets private market decide if it's worth building rather than Ottawa

But whether or not it's realistic at this stage to get done I don't know.  Seems like a lot of hurtles and opposition to overcome still.  Would Carney be willing to push aside First Nation opposition if the coastal FN don't agree to it?

Peak oil demand forecast has been revised from 2030 to 2050 due to increased data centre electricity demands on the other hand...

Bauer

Meanwhile Nutrien is choosing to build a new potash export terminal in Washington state due to excessive regulations in Canada.  This is exactly the thing we're supposed to be avoiding right now. 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/nutrien-selects-u-s-port-to-build-new-potash-export-terminal-9.6992424

Oexmelin

"Company claims it's being over-regulated" would require more than an Economics prof reading from the corporation's press release to convince me that it's what we are supposed to avoid. 
Que le grand cric me croque !

Bauer

Quote from: Jacob on November 24, 2025, 06:41:00 PMSo apparently Canadian former Olympic Snowboarder Ryan Wedding is now a major drug lord, wanted by the US and hiding in Mexico: https://www.thetimes.com/article/e189a4db-f944-48aa-9a21-a280cb9d97c4?shareToken=5f4e4e4ec073ca5b7108cd02cfa8bf85

Canada has a long history of drug peddling snowboarders (Rebagliati)

Bauer

Quote from: Oexmelin on Today at 02:47:04 PM"Company claims it's being over-regulated" would require more than an Economics prof reading from the corporation's press release to convince me that it's what we are supposed to avoid. 

 Not quite sure I understand your comment, but what we are trying to avoid right now is investment leaving Canada.  Carneys vision is that it has become too difficult to build things in Canada and that needs to be improved.

Whether or not the company is making an accurate assessment I think is not that important, but it seems their perception is that infrastructure and rail investment in Canada is a barrier to their growth.  That's a reality and perception that needs to be changed.

Tonitrus

Quote from: Jacob on November 24, 2025, 06:41:00 PMSo apparently Canadian former Olympic Snowboarder Ryan Wedding is now a major drug lord, wanted by the US and hiding in Mexico: https://www.thetimes.com/article/e189a4db-f944-48aa-9a21-a280cb9d97c4?shareToken=5f4e4e4ec073ca5b7108cd02cfa8bf85

I thought this dude was already in the news a few years ago.

Jacob

I'm sure he was, but this is the first I heard about it.

Jacob

Quote from: Bauer on Today at 02:38:16 PMMeanwhile Nutrien is choosing to build a new potash export terminal in Washington state due to excessive regulations in Canada.  This is exactly the thing we're supposed to be avoiding right now. 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/nutrien-selects-u-s-port-to-build-new-potash-export-terminal-9.6992424

It goes both ways, though: https://seattlered.com/taxes/microsoft-business-taxes/4115276

QuoteMicrosoft issues chilling warning: New WA taxes will drive companies out—Vancouver already winning

...

Vancouver already benefiting as Seattle stumbles
Microsoft has been quietly expanding its office in Vancouver, B.C., doubling its headcount there since before the pandemic.

crazy canuck

Quote from: Oexmelin on Today at 02:47:04 PM"Company claims it's being over-regulated" would require more than an Economics prof reading from the corporation's press release to convince me that it's what we are supposed to avoid. 

Your dismissiveness is unwarranted.  This is a professor in the University of Saskatchewan's  Agricultural and Resource Economics department.  If he doesn't know what he is talking about in this area, then nobody does.

Also, speaking as someone who knows a thing or two about the ports in BC, they have limited capacity and major expansion takes years of regulatory approval.  The very point the prof was making.

Awarded 17 Zoupa points

In several surveys, the overwhelming first choice for what makes Canada unique is multiculturalism. This, in a world collapsing into stupid, impoverishing hatreds, is the distinctly Canadian national project.

crazy canuck

Quote from: Jacob on Today at 03:58:50 PM
Quote from: Bauer on Today at 02:38:16 PMMeanwhile Nutrien is choosing to build a new potash export terminal in Washington state due to excessive regulations in Canada.  This is exactly the thing we're supposed to be avoiding right now. 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/nutrien-selects-u-s-port-to-build-new-potash-export-terminal-9.6992424

It goes both ways, though: https://seattlered.com/taxes/microsoft-business-taxes/4115276

QuoteMicrosoft issues chilling warning: New WA taxes will drive companies out—Vancouver already winning

...

Vancouver already benefiting as Seattle stumbles
Microsoft has been quietly expanding its office in Vancouver, B.C., doubling its headcount there since before the pandemic.


No, you are making a false equivalency.  Nutrien is not moving its business. It is still extracting Potash from Saskatchewan. The problem they are facing is the lack of infrastructure on the West coast of Canada to move their product to market, and the regulatory hurdles (some would say nightmare) to get things built here.

Bauer is correct to point out this is the very thing Carney is trying to address.  And I would add, needs to get addressed quickly.  One way to think about it is that the announcement of special projects that get to avoid the regulatory tangle we have created is another way of saying that they are probably unnecessary brakes on much needed infrastructure development.
Awarded 17 Zoupa points

In several surveys, the overwhelming first choice for what makes Canada unique is multiculturalism. This, in a world collapsing into stupid, impoverishing hatreds, is the distinctly Canadian national project.