Crusader Kings 2 Redux

[Valmy]

Slavs, Hungarians, and especially ROMAnians opening butthurt QQ threads on the CK2 forum is hilarious.

Ok what could the Slavs possibly be complaining about?  They have their own religion now.

[Tamas]

Slavs, Hungarians, and especially ROMAnians opening butthurt QQ threads on the CK2 forum is hilarious.

Ok what could the Slavs possibly be complaining about?  They have their own religion now.

not enough details

[garbon]

Slavs, Hungarians, and especially ROMAnians opening butthurt QQ threads on the CK2 forum is hilarious.

Ok what could the Slavs possibly be complaining about?  They have their own religion now.

not enough details

Indeed, the same things they always complain about.

[The Minsky Moment]

I tried starting as Piast, the legendary founder of the Polish Piast dynasty, but for some reason the Polanie tribe is an unplayable Republic. WTF? 

The bigger question is why they would allow you to play a fictitious character in a supposedly historical game.
If they started in the 5th century, would they also let you start with the sea monster ancestor of the Merovingians?

Is there any evidence of an identifiable Polish state or principality in the 9th century?

[garbon]

I tried starting as Piast, the legendary founder of the Polish Piast dynasty, but for some reason the Polanie tribe is an unplayable Republic. WTF? 

The bigger question is why they would allow you to play a fictitious character in a supposedly historical game.
If they started in the 5th century, would they also let you start with the sea monster ancestor of the Merovingians?

Is there any evidence of an identifiable Polish state or principality in the 9th century?

Well they have to do something with those territories. Also isn't Rurik kind of legendary as well?

Besides, all they have start out in Poland area is a bunch of Polish cultured tribes.

[Queequeg]

I don't think anyone doubts that there was Varangian settlement of Russia.  I just don't know if anyone really believes there were functional polities in contemporary Poland.

[Valmy]

I just don't know if anyone really believes there were functional polities in contemporary Poland.

Well there wasn't anything particularly functional about the polities in Ireland but they get represented.

[garbon]

I don't think anyone doubts that there was Varangian settlement of Russia.

Of course I don't think I said that - though clearly if we want to discuss that, the two large Norse states they had probably weren't strong/so well established as represented.

I just don't know if anyone really believes there were functional polities in contemporary Poland.

They have to have something there and I don't see what's so wrong with having a slew of Slavic tribes.

[Queequeg]

Oh.  That seems reasonable, actually. 

[The Minsky Moment]

Well they have to do something with those territories.

I take your point - you could use random West Slavic names but at that point why not just use the names we associate with known later dynasties.

Still it does point to one of the problems with having a 9th century start date on a map that includes all of Europe.

[garbon]

Well they have to do something with those territories.

I take your point - you could use random West Slavic names but at that point why not just use the names we associate with known later dynasties.

Still it does point to one of the problems with having a 9th century start date on a map that includes all of Europe.

Yep, agree on both parts.

[Syt]

I just don't know if anyone really believes there were functional polities in contemporary Poland.

Well there wasn't anything particularly functional about the polities in Ireland but they get represented.

They did have some very advanced law talking on Ireland, though. Whether that contributed or alleviated the disorder is up for interpretation.

[Tamas]

muhaha, I managed to get the ROMAnian "we ruled the world, like, forever" thread locked.

[Razgovory]

You know, when you do shit like that, for instance write ROMAnians it doesn't cause us to think of you very highly.


On a different note I managed to make a one province chieftan King of Norway.  Granted it's not the most valuable territory, but it looks good on a resume.

[garbon]

You know, when you do shit like that, for instance write ROMAnians it doesn't cause us to think of you very highly.

Yep, typical balkan kid.