Gingritch: I boffed her because I'm such a hard-working, patriotic person

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Ed Anger

Quote from: Razgovory on March 11, 2011, 06:49:14 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 11, 2011, 05:35:45 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on March 11, 2011, 01:52:37 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 10, 2011, 07:06:09 PM
I liked the concept of the Contract With America.  Not the particulars, of which I remember none, just the notion that "here's a list of things we promise to do if you elect us."
Don't all parties do that every election?

Last congressional election, the Dems line was:

BUSH DID IT. IT'S ALL HIS FAULT. DON'T ELECT THEM.

I guess that explains why they lost so many seats.  Bush hadn't been president for two years.

I can't help it if the party you like ran shitty campaigns.
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DGuller

Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 11, 2011, 06:33:05 PM
Parties endorse platforms which are full of plattiudes like "we will work for goodness and against badness."
Nothing wrong with working for goodness and against badness in my book.  :huh:

grumbler

Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 11, 2011, 06:33:05 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on March 11, 2011, 01:52:37 PM
Don't all parties do that every election?
Parties endorse platforms which are full of plattiudes like "we will work for goodness and against badness."

The CWA was very specific (things like eliminat the National Endowment for the Arts) and it was signed by the great majority, if not all, Republican Congressmen who won election that term.
Yes, the Contract on America was specific and, importantly, limited.  It was not, as you note, a catchall sloganeering document but a finely tailored message.

It did have some wishywashiness about fraud, waste, and abuse, and some clearly unrealistic elements like (IIRC) term limits, but I would agree with you that it was a significant benefit to the Republicans in that election.  I wish more US elections were run on those kinds of grounds.
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grumbler

Quote from: Ed Anger on March 11, 2011, 06:51:32 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 11, 2011, 06:49:14 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 11, 2011, 05:35:45 PM
Last congressional election, the Dems line was:

BUSH DID IT. IT'S ALL HIS FAULT. DON'T ELECT THEM.

I guess that explains why they lost so many seats.  Bush hadn't been president for two years.

I can't help it if the party you like ran shitty I get my campaigns confused.
FYPFY.  :cool:
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Barrister

Quote from: grumbler on March 11, 2011, 07:05:39 PM
Yes, the Contract on America was specific and, importantly, limited.  It was not, as you note, a catchall sloganeering document but a finely tailored message.

It did have some wishywashiness about fraud, waste, and abuse, and some clearly unrealistic elements like (IIRC) term limits, but I would agree with you that it was a significant benefit to the Republicans in that election.  I wish more US elections were run on those kinds of grounds.

:rolleyes:
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grumbler

Quote from: Barrister on March 11, 2011, 07:13:13 PM
Quote from: grumbler on March 11, 2011, 07:05:39 PM
Yes, the Contract on America was specific and, importantly, limited.  It was not, as you note, a catchall sloganeering document but a finely tailored message.

It did have some wishywashiness about fraud, waste, and abuse, and some clearly unrealistic elements like (IIRC) term limits, but I would agree with you that it was a significant benefit to the Republicans in that election.  I wish more US elections were run on those kinds of grounds.

:rolleyes:
Humor doesn't translate well across borders, I note.  :cool:
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

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Barrister

The line "Contract on America" grew old very quickly in the mid 90s, and has not improved with age.
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

grumbler

Quote from: Barrister on March 11, 2011, 07:17:55 PM
The line "Contract on America" grew old very quickly in the mid 90s, and has not improved with age.
:lmfao:  To the sticks in the mud, probably so.  I have always enjoyed it, as well as the "No Child Left Alive" bon mot.
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Razgovory

Quote from: Barrister on March 11, 2011, 07:17:55 PM
The line "Contract on America" grew old very quickly in the mid 90s, and has not improved with age.

Not as quick as the Contract with America did.
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Tonitrus

Quote from: grumbler on March 11, 2011, 07:05:39 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 11, 2011, 06:33:05 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on March 11, 2011, 01:52:37 PM
Don't all parties do that every election?
Parties endorse platforms which are full of plattiudes like "we will work for goodness and against badness."

The CWA was very specific (things like eliminat the National Endowment for the Arts) and it was signed by the great majority, if not all, Republican Congressmen who won election that term.
Yes, the Contract on America was specific and, importantly, limited.  It was not, as you note, a catchall sloganeering document but a finely tailored message.

It did have some wishywashiness about fraud, waste, and abuse, and some clearly unrealistic elements like (IIRC) term limits, but I would agree with you that it was a significant benefit to the Republicans in that election.  I wish more US elections were run on those kinds of grounds.

Clearly the most unrealistic item from the Contract with America was tort reform.