The Great Union-Busting Thread

[derspiess]

Hey Derspeiss, I was looking at that Breitbart site while Languish was down.  A lot of "thug" talk. 

Some interesting youtube videos as well if you search for "union thug". 

I suppose that's the new thing.  What does it mean when someone calls the President a "Welfare thug"?

Dunno.

[CountDeMoney]

What's HNIC?

You've spent way too much time in Iowa, cornbread.

[DGuller]

And Goldman-Sachs is a particularly bad example because they're known historically as a major donor to Democrats.

When it comes to financial industry, Democrats and Republicans are equal opportunity sociopathic sellouts.  After all, Chuck Schumer was one of Wall Street's most reliable men.  It's also important to remember that Democrats were in charge when Wall Street got away with murder.  So, in a way, GS is actually a very good example, because it shows that who contributes matters more than to whom the money is contributed.

[derspiess]

It seems your table is the top groups that run quote unquote issues ads.  So I'll concede the point that the destruction of the unions will mean the end of the liberal left's principal funders of issue ads (though I'm a little surprised SorosOn.org didn't make the cut).  Obviously that's not the same thing as fundraising in general.

Also, Seedy's chart only gives one example (an off-cycle election in which top Dem donors notoriously held back).  The link I posted covers 1989-2010.  The top 10 from that list is:

ActBlue    $51,124,846 (Dem)
AT&T Inc    $46,292,670 (Split, slightly GOP)
American Fedn of State, County & Municipal Employees    $43,477,361 (Dem)
National Assn of Realtors    $38,721,441 (Split)
Goldman Sachs    $33,387,252 (Dem)
American Assn for Justice    $33,143,279 (Dem)
Intl Brotherhood of Electrical Workers    $33,056,216 (Dem)
National Education Assn    $32,024,610 (Dem)
Laborers Union    $30,292,050 (Dem)
Teamsters Union    $29,319,982 (Dem)


FWIW, the EEEEVILLLLLLLLL Koch Industries is #63.

[MadImmortalMan]

Yeah, my earlier point was that this is a perfectly timed exploit of the crisis to directly attack the sources of Democrat campaign funding and organization. Look where Dems would be if, say, the union funding got cut in half. That would be devastating.


What you're not saying spicy is that, while it looks like the GOP has a massive fundraising disadvantage looking at that list, IIRC they get a ton more money from small individual donors. Dems need all the big guys to pony up in order to stay even.

[garbon]

So your basically arguing that the only way for the "liberal left" to raise money is by extorting it from union members?

An interesting perspective.

I guess I am thinking that if the "liberal left" can only raise money via these means, they probably deserve to be made irrelevant. However, I am not really buying the claim that the only way the left raises funds is via these handfuls of unions. Obama seemed to be rather capable of raising rather stunning amounts of cash, and I don't think he got it all from a handful of unions.

Oh and on a totally different note, New York just sent me 3 identical voter change forms. Good use of public funds/natural resources?

[saskganesh]

What's HNIC?

"Head Nigger In Charge."

er matt

Hockey Night in Canada.

y'all culture poses difficulties in comprehenson. It does not matter not matter tho, as this forum is a proven political graveyard on humane issues, and so engaging is like playing in night soil.

good fucking luck. bye.

[Caliga]

 

I was just telling him what it means dude.  I never heard of this 'Hockey Night in Canada' thing...

[garbon]

I was just telling him what it means dude.  I never heard of this 'Hockey Night in Canada' thing...

Besides beavers and aboot, who's ever heard anything about Canada?

[Berkut]

Yeah, my earlier point was that this is a perfectly timed exploit of the crisis to directly attack the sources of Democrat campaign funding and organization.

Yeah, because it is not like there could be any OTHER reason to go after public service unions, now could there?

[MadImmortalMan]

Yeah, my earlier point was that this is a perfectly timed exploit of the crisis to directly attack the sources of Democrat campaign funding and organization.

Yeah, because it is not like there could be any OTHER reason to go after public service unions, now could there?

To be fair, I'm not dismissing the fact that they've dug themselves into this unsustainable hole where the expectations are way out of whack with fiscal reality. The budgetary concerns are totally legitimate.

[Barrister]

What's HNIC?

"Head Nigger In Charge."

It stands for Hockey Night In Canada.   

[Habbaku]

What's HNIC?

"Head Nigger In Charge."

It stands for Hockey Night In Canada.   

Oh, is that what Sask's incomprehensible post was trying to convey?

[Caliga]

It stands for Hockey Night In Canada.   

Ok, so it stands for two things.

[Ed Anger]

Hilarious.