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Started by Eddie Teach, March 06, 2011, 09:29:27 AM

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crazy canuck

Quote from: Eddie Teach on July 14, 2021, 02:43:47 PM
I thought Bashir was into Jadzia?  :hmm: I only saw the first season though.

Jadzia was an "old man"

Barrister

Quote from: celedhring on July 14, 2021, 10:07:57 AM
Garak is great. His character at times feels straight out of a Le Carré novel, down to him being a tailor.  :D

Doing my own rewatch, and the thing about Garak though is they lose the ambiguity ridiculously early on - he very obviously is some sort of spy currently on the outs from the Obsidian Order.
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HVC

you know he's on the outs, but not why. and you don't know if he's really out. why didn't they kill him (you fin out way in the second to last season). So he's still somewhat ambiguous. Never tell the same lie twice, and what not
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Tonitrus

Quote from: crazy canuck on July 14, 2021, 02:49:35 PM
Quote from: Eddie Teach on July 14, 2021, 02:43:47 PM
I thought Bashir was into Jadzia?  :hmm: I only saw the first season though.

Jadzia was an "old man"

To nitpick..."Jadzia" was the h0ttie, "Dax" was the "old man".  ;)

But ET is right...though she always blew him off.

crazy canuck

Quote from: Tonitrus on July 14, 2021, 04:05:56 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on July 14, 2021, 02:49:35 PM
Quote from: Eddie Teach on July 14, 2021, 02:43:47 PM
I thought Bashir was into Jadzia?  :hmm: I only saw the first season though.

Jadzia was an "old man"

To nitpick..."Jadzia" was the h0ttie, "Dax" was the "old man".  ;)

But ET is right...though she always blew him off.

Fair bust.

Savonarola

Broken Blossoms (1919)

This is based on a story called "The Chink and the Girl" in which a Chinese drifter living in London's Limehouse district shacks up with a 12 year old girl who is fleeing from her abusive father.  DW Griffith had to change the story quite a bit; the girl is now 16 (Lilian Gish was actually about 26 at the time), the Chinese man is a Buddhist missionary and its implied that their relationship is purely platonic.  Even that wasn't enough for the studio, [spoiler]like any good Shakespearean tragedy everyone dies at the end[/spoiler]; Griffith had to buy the film and release it himself, which ultimately lead to the formation of United Artists.

The film makes excellent use of setting and shadows to convey the seediness of the Limehouse district.  Unfortunately the print I got from Netflix was poor and it was pretty washed out.  The film is one of Gish's strongest performances, even a washed out print couldn't hide that; the closet scene, where she melts down in terror, is unforgettable. 

The film is also notable for its largely positive portrayal of an Asian character.  Sessue Hayakawa had started his own picture company by that time so it wasn't unheard of, but even the propaganda films made the year earlier (when Japan was a US ally) usually portrays the Japanese characters as sneaky, cruel and lusting after white women.
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Josephus

Are spoiler tags necessary when discussing a show that's like 20 years old?
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grumbler

Quote from: Josephus on July 14, 2021, 07:40:05 PM
Are spoiler tags necessary when discussing a show that's like 20 years old?

If we need them for a movie that's 102 years old, we need them for 20-year-old shows.
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HVC

Quote from: Josephus on July 14, 2021, 07:40:05 PM
Are spoiler tags necessary when discussing a show that's like 20 years old?

Tamas said he's watching it too, so it's mainly for him
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

celedhring

Quote from: Barrister on July 14, 2021, 02:55:55 PM
Quote from: celedhring on July 14, 2021, 10:07:57 AM
Garak is great. His character at times feels straight out of a Le Carré novel, down to him being a tailor.  :D

Doing my own rewatch, and the thing about Garak though is they lose the ambiguity ridiculously early on - he very obviously is some sort of spy currently on the outs from the Obsidian Order.

Yeah, but the character remains pretty ambiguous until very later on. I posted about the episode when Garak's past in the Obsidian Order is finally acknowledged, but he tells like 3 different stories about why he left, each of which make him look like a completely different person. That was great  :D

Tonitrus

Quote from: Sheilbh on July 13, 2021, 11:41:57 AM
Also - I push it on literally everyone I meet/know - but on cop shows I really recommend Giri/Haji which is a London/Tokyo crime story and wonderful.

I think it's on Netflix - but make sure to watch the recaps because they are beautifully little animated summaries of the last episode that shouldn't be missed (rather than just a load of clips).

Checked it out on your recommendation.

Very goof quality overall, but the romantic connection they try to set up between Kenzo and Sarah feels way too forced.  As a viewer, I just don't buy it.

Josephus

Watching the Empire Strkes Back.

Holy Shit. [spoiler]Darth Vader[/spoiler] is [spoiler]Luke's [/spoiler] father.

And Luke and Leia are [spoiler]siblings?[/spoiler] :huh:
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Syt

Quote from: Josephus on July 17, 2021, 06:50:23 AM
And Luke and Leia are [spoiler]siblings?[/spoiler] :huh:

Not [spoiler]revealed[/spoiler] till [spoiler]Return of the Jedi[/spoiler] :P
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Josquius

Quote from: Tonitrus on July 17, 2021, 04:41:05 AM
Quote from: Sheilbh on July 13, 2021, 11:41:57 AM
Also - I push it on literally everyone I meet/know - but on cop shows I really recommend Giri/Haji which is a London/Tokyo crime story and wonderful.

I think it's on Netflix - but make sure to watch the recaps because they are beautifully little animated summaries of the last episode that shouldn't be missed (rather than just a load of clips).

Checked it out on your recommendation.

Very goof quality overall, but the romantic connection they try to set up between Kenzo and Sarah feels way too forced.  As a viewer, I just don't buy it.

It is a bit. But that's true of most romantic subplots.

I guess it makes a bit more sense to read it like kenzo is very repressed, stuck in the drudgery of salaryman-cop life with a wife he isn't into anymore but for appearances cannot leave.... And then bam free in London the world is his. Sarah just happens to be the woman he is spending the most time with for other reasons and she has issues herself so is also ripe to jump into bed with the first nice man who helps her feel safe.

If it had gone into series 2 (:cry:) I'd hope they would take this to a natural conclusion where they realise they aren't actually suited for each other and need to look inside themselves for happiness.
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Tonitrus

Quote from: Tyr on July 17, 2021, 08:11:56 AM
Quote from: Tonitrus on July 17, 2021, 04:41:05 AM
Quote from: Sheilbh on July 13, 2021, 11:41:57 AM
Also - I push it on literally everyone I meet/know - but on cop shows I really recommend Giri/Haji which is a London/Tokyo crime story and wonderful.

I think it's on Netflix - but make sure to watch the recaps because they are beautifully little animated summaries of the last episode that shouldn't be missed (rather than just a load of clips).

Checked it out on your recommendation.

Very goof quality overall, but the romantic connection they try to set up between Kenzo and Sarah feels way too forced.  As a viewer, I just don't buy it.

It is a bit. But that's true of most romantic subplots.

I guess it makes a bit more sense to read it like kenzo is very repressed, stuck in the drudgery of salaryman-cop life with a wife he isn't into anymore but for appearances cannot leave.... And then bam free in London the world is his. Sarah just happens to be the woman he is spending the most time with for other reasons and she has issues herself so is also ripe to jump into bed with the first nice man who helps her feel safe.

If it had gone into series 2 (:cry:) I'd hope they would take this to a natural conclusion where they realise they aren't actually suited for each other and need to look inside themselves for happiness.

That the odd thing for me.  I saw all of that, and sympathize with how they wanted to go with the story that way...but I just find their chemistry convincing (though the scene where he challenges her to be quiet for 20 seconds was a really good scene).  I actually felt, from the way the characters were played, it still felt like he had more chemistry with his wife than with Sarah, even if they were trying for the opposite effect.