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Malthus

Quote from: Tamas on September 17, 2019, 09:01:19 AM
It's bloody Sons of Anarchy in old people's clothes.


As I said, if you can look past the incredibly two-dimensional characters, cookie-cutter plot, and wanton disregard for the period they proclaim to be portraying, good for you. But I didn't like it.

Well, sounds like you didn't like it, for a bunch of reasons.  :lol: That they had Churchill fighting in the wrong battle seems to me the least of it, though.
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Malthus

Got me thinking of a big plot hole in a series I enjoyed very much: Breaking Bad.

The whole plot revolves around the mad skills that the lead character, Walter White, has at making super pure meth. That's why he's in such high demand that gangsters are willing to pay him millions of dollars and put up with his bullshit.

Yet in the show itself another of the characters, Jesse, points out that meth-heads are super unpicky - that they are making poison to be consumed by customers who would happily consume any garbage that got them high. Moreover, the stuff can be made from a checklist to be followed by, say, a bunch of bikers. You don't need to be a chemistry genius to make it, just know how to follow basic directions/use the equipment and have the precursors.

It seems really unlikely that super-pure product would command a huge price advantage, like a fine vintage wine or something. Yet the plot doesn't work unless it does.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane—Marcus Aurelius

Habbaku

Quote from: Tyr on September 17, 2019, 04:19:21 AM
Could never get into Peaky Blinders. My mother raves about it though.

Ditto. I watched the entire first season and, while parts were interesting, the whole thing struck me as pretty insufferable. A lot of what takes me out of it was the insistence on using modern rock (Nick Cave, etc.) in a variety of scenes. Took me out of the show's time period each and every time.

Which seems like such a small crime now that I read about them sending Churchill to Verdun.
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Quote from: Habbaku on September 17, 2019, 09:25:09 AM
Which seems like such a small crime now that I read about them sending Churchill to Verdun.

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You can't prove Churchill was not at Verdun.
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garbon

Quote from: Habbaku on September 17, 2019, 09:25:09 AM
Quote from: Tyr on September 17, 2019, 04:19:21 AM
Could never get into Peaky Blinders. My mother raves about it though.

Ditto. I watched the entire first season and, while parts were interesting, the whole thing struck me as pretty insufferable. A lot of what takes me out of it was the insistence on using modern rock (Nick Cave, etc.) in a variety of scenes. Took me out of the show's time period each and every time.

Whereas, I loved having the non-period music. I still need to catch up to current season though.
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Yeah, I personally loved the music, too. Probably not less "real" than any conventional BSO they would have come up with.

It's a fun, somewhat trashy, show, with a great cast.

The Brain

Haven't seen the show (nor will I), but I'm with Tampax. Why take a completely unnecessary dump on the viewer? Very unappealing.
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Malthus

Quote from: garbon on September 17, 2019, 10:05:39 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on September 17, 2019, 09:25:09 AM
Quote from: Tyr on September 17, 2019, 04:19:21 AM
Could never get into Peaky Blinders. My mother raves about it though.

Ditto. I watched the entire first season and, while parts were interesting, the whole thing struck me as pretty insufferable. A lot of what takes me out of it was the insistence on using modern rock (Nick Cave, etc.) in a variety of scenes. Took me out of the show's time period each and every time.

Whereas, I loved having the non-period music. I still need to catch up to current season though.

Indeed.

It helped that the music was, generally, awesome. Nick Cave is great.
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Tamas

Quote from: Malthus on September 17, 2019, 10:16:52 AM


Indeed.

It helped that the music was, generally, awesome. Nick Cave is great.

Plus, in topics and ambience, it is very much linked not just to the characters of the show, but the ambience and attitude of the 1920s British underworld as well.

Malthus

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane—Marcus Aurelius

garbon

Quote from: The Brain on September 17, 2019, 10:12:01 AM
Haven't seen the show (nor will I), but I'm with Tampax. Why take a completely unnecessary dump on the viewer? Very unappealing.

It's just what they do with these sort of shows. The Tudors merged two of Henry VIII's sisters together ostensibly because one has the same name as his more famous daughter, but that doesn't explain why the composite character was married to the King of Portugal, someone that neither real sister married.
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Tamas

Quote from: garbon on September 17, 2019, 10:45:06 AM
Quote from: The Brain on September 17, 2019, 10:12:01 AM
Haven't seen the show (nor will I), but I'm with Tampax. Why take a completely unnecessary dump on the viewer? Very unappealing.

It's just what they do with these sort of shows. The Tudors merged two of Henry VIII's sisters together ostensibly because one has the same name as his more famous daughter, but that doesn't explain why the composite character was married to the King of Portugal, someone that neither real sister married.

I guess it gave them a chance to introduce a new male character?

Point is, in that scene, there was ZERO reason to say the Brits were at Verdun. Churchill listed like 3 or 4 battles, probably the result of a quick Google search of "great battles of WW1". As Atomic Ant said above, it's just a pointless dump on the viewer.

HVC

Quote from: Berkut on September 17, 2019, 09:39:10 AM
You can't prove Churchill was not at Verdun.

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