TV/Movies Megathread

[KRonn]

Watching this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIorjslBgJk
A fair point is raised.
How is it that Westerns, a type of film set in a 20 year period in a very specific and minor part of the world, have become such a genre

The western genre supplies a bunch of cultural mythology to a nation which 1) has a short story as such 2) happens to be the most influential country when it comes to film.

I.e. roaming cowboy stories are the equivalent of the knight errant stories in other cultures, and we have shedloads of knight errand stories.

There are themes of civilization vs wilderness, personal justice, the foundation of a country... which makes it easy to understand why they resonate in the US psyche.

Interesting, good points. Even though I grew up on Westerns and still like them I've often wondered how they compared historically to other nations with much longer and grander internal historical events.

[Savonarola]

Paddington (2014)

Ooh Nicole Kidman is a naughty, naughty girl who needs to be spanked   



er, I mean, this is heart warming family friendly entertainment based on a beloved children's book that even adults who do not have fantasies about spanking Nicole Kidman can enjoy.   



In fact Nicole Kidman was so good in her role as the villainess that a number of her scenes had to be cut because they were too scary for a children's movie.  The same thing happened to Margaret Hamilton in "The Wonderful Wizard of Oz."

[Sophie Scholl]

Black Lightning.  A new series on The CW which will (I presume?) join in with Arrow, Flash, Legends of Tomorrow, and Supergirl.  I caught up on the first two episodes last night.  I enjoyed it a lot.  A heck of a lot darker, grimmer, and more realistic than any of the other shows.  It seems a lot closer to the Marvel Netflix shows in tone and quality.

[Josquius]

Black Lightning.  A new series on The CW which will (I presume?) join in with Arrow, Flash, Legends of Tomorrow, and Supergirl.  I caught up on the first two episodes last night.  I enjoyed it a lot.  A heck of a lot darker, grimmer, and more realistic than any of the other shows.  It seems a lot closer to the Marvel Netflix shows in tone and quality.

I was very surprised to see it was DC. At first I guessed it was some weird original superhero. Certainly seems they're trying to do the marvel netflix shows yes.

[jimmy olsen]

Watching this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIorjslBgJk
A fair point is raised.
How is it that Westerns, a type of film set in a 20 year period in a very specific and minor part of the world, have become such a genre

I'd say a Western can happen anytime between 1815 and 1900. Hardly a twenty year period

[Eddie Teach]

I'd say Last of the Mohicans was kind of a western.

[mongers]

Watching this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIorjslBgJk
A fair point is raised.
How is it that Westerns, a type of film set in a 20 year period in a very specific and minor part of the world, have become such a genre

I'd say a Western can happen anytime between 1815 and 1900. Hardly a twenty year period

'The Wild Bunch' was set even later.

[Admiral Yi]

Disagree.  Mohicans and Revenant were not Westerns.  They're Daniel Boone/Davey Crocket wilderness/frontier movies.

Westerns can start from 1849, when you had the gold rush, but really shouldn't start until 1865, when Quantrill's raiders went outlaw.  Then they end around 1880/1890, with all the railroads laid, all the Indians pacified, all the homesteads homesteaded.  Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid are a perfect marker for the historical end of the Western.

[PDH]

Disagree.  Mohicans and Revenant were not Westerns.  They're Daniel Boone/Davey Crocket wilderness/frontier movies.

Westerns can start from 1849, when you had the gold rush, but really shouldn't start until 1865, when Quantrill's raiders went outlaw.  Then they end around 1880/1890, with all the railroads laid, all the Indians pacified, all the homesteads homesteaded.  Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid are a perfect marker for the historical end of the Western.

Seeing as how Cassidy's Wild Bunch was active around the turn of the century, that timeline might have to be pushed back a bit.

[Admiral Yi]

Oooh, Mr. Rocky Mountain local history pulls rank.

[katmai]

Yi you ignorant slut.

[Duque de Bragança]

Watching this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIorjslBgJk
A fair point is raised.
How is it that Westerns, a type of film set in a 20 year period in a very specific and minor part of the world, have become such a genre

I'd say a Western can happen anytime between 1815 and 1900. Hardly a twenty year period

'The Wild Bunch' was set even later.

Yep exactly, in 1913, during the Mexican Revolution or Civil War, though the movie shows the Wild Bunch is a walking anachronism.

[celedhring]

Watching this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIorjslBgJk
A fair point is raised.
How is it that Westerns, a type of film set in a 20 year period in a very specific and minor part of the world, have become such a genre

I'd say a Western can happen anytime between 1815 and 1900. Hardly a twenty year period

'The Wild Bunch' was set even later.

Yep exactly, in 1913, during the Mexican Revolution or Civil War, though the movie shows the Wild Bunch is a walking anachronism.

Yeah, that's the point of the movie. Setting a western in an era where the western mythology is dead/dying. That was a commentary on the state of the genre itself when the movie came out (late 1960s).

Totally different movie, but Butch Cassidy and Sundance Kid does exactly the same (showing the end of the world of the Old Western and the people that made it), and it was released around the same time IIRC.

[celedhring]

Now that I think of it, has there been any notable Western made after 1970 that's not crepuscular or revisionist? All-out classic stuff?

Silverado maybe? Hardly a significant film though.

[The Larch]

Now that I think of it, has there been any notable Western made after 1970 that's not crepuscular or revisionist? All-out classic stuff?

Silverado maybe? Hardly a significant film though.

Dances with wolves?