TV/Movies Megathread

[Duque de Bragança]

Shogun out today. Episode 1 and 2

Shot on location.  In BC.

Same forests as in the X-Files? 

[viper37]

Shogun out today. Episode 1 and 2

Shot on location.  In BC.

Same forests as in the X-Files? 

Same one as Stargate Sg-1, Atlantis and Universe too

[viper37]

Some in japan too. And the uk for some reason

Scenes before he went to Japan?
His family back in England?
Can't say I've read the book but if the real William Adams story is in there I think he went back and forth a few times.

IIRC, the book begins as he is in the sea, during a storm, just like the mini-series with Richard Chamberlain.
There are no flashbacks to his time in England.

Still scared it'll be worse than that one. Loved when I saw it decades ago

It was 80s series at its prime, imho.

[Josephus]

Shogun out today. Episode 1 and 2

Shot on location.  In BC.

Same forests as in the X-Files? 

And all the planets on Stargate

[Tonitrus]

Some in japan too. And the uk for some reason

Scenes before he went to Japan?
His family back in England?
Can't say I've read the book but if the real William Adams story is in there I think he went back and forth a few times.

IIRC, the book begins as he is in the sea, during a storm, just like the mini-series with Richard Chamberlain.
There are no flashbacks to his time in England.

Still scared it'll be worse than that one. Loved when I saw it decades ago

From the trailer, it definitely appears it will be more high-energy/appealing to those younger audiences with a short attention span.

And also if the trailer represents, 1000% less lighting.

[HVC]

First episodes were good. Some Catholics and or Portuguese people migh be displeased. The types that write letters when angry

[Josquius]

Some in japan too. And the uk for some reason

Scenes before he went to Japan?
His family back in England?
Can't say I've read the book but if the real William Adams story is in there I think he went back and forth a few times.

IIRC, the book begins as he is in the sea, during a storm, just like the mini-series with Richard Chamberlain.
There are no flashbacks to his time in England.

Still scared it'll be worse than that one. Loved when I saw it decades ago

From the trailer, it definitely appears it will be more high-energy/appealing to those younger audiences with a short attention span.

And also if the trailer represents, 1000% less lighting.

Increased action I'm fine with if it's handled right.

But less lighting is absolutely my main hate with modern media. Get some fucking candles.

[Tamas]

Yep pitch black and barely audible dialogs. I mean I get it the cgi must blend in but come on.

[Josquius]

The dialogues are less of a stand out to me as I think I've grown used to permanent subtitles.
But yes.
Watching masters of the air. The volume at a certain level to hear what the hell people are saying.... Then BOOM DRAMATIC MUSIC.

Annoying enough when you're just watching but trying to get the baby to sleep....

[celedhring]

The "darker = more cinematic!" thing going on with many TV shows is driving me nuts indeed.

[Tamas]

The dialogues are less of a stand out to me as I think I've grown used to permanent subtitles.
But yes.
Watching masters of the air. The volume at a certain level to hear what the hell people are saying.... Then BOOM DRAMATIC MUSIC.

Annoying enough when you're just watching but trying to get the baby to sleep....

Yeah subtitles are always on for me as well but I didn't realise it's gotten so bad that a native speaker uses them as well. But not surprised at all.

[HVC]

The "darker = more cinematic!" thing going on with many TV shows is driving me nuts indeed.

I blame Christopher Nolan.

[Josquius]

The "darker = more cinematic!" thing going on with many TV shows is driving me nuts indeed.

I blame Christopher Nolan.

Always gets me his Batman films are so highly rated. From my first watch I couldn't stand the dark.

[celedhring]

The "darker = more cinematic!" thing going on with many TV shows is driving me nuts indeed.

I blame Christopher Nolan.

Nah, it's not that. I lived through this evolution first-hand, so I can attest from my experience.

1990s and 2000s broadcast shows were very brightly lit because of budgetary reasons. You could set up a very basic setup that flooded everything with light, needing little adjustments between setups. That way you could shoot faster and chew through the pages of the script. The first digital cameras also had very little dynamic range (that is, you couldn't have much contrast onscreen while still retaining detail) - that's the reason why The Phantom Menace is so flat-looking, btw.

When "peak tv" began to hit in the late 2000s, a way to distance itself from "shitty broadcast shows" was to make use of moodier lightning. Better digital cameras were now available that allowed this without having to shoot in film. In the end, expressionistic lightning became a marker of perceived quality. And here we are.

Now, there's also the issue that in many cases, the content pipeline is so frantic that production standards have regressed to 1990s broadcast. Meaning, you have to have the moody lightning but you don't have the time to work on the different setups.

[Syt]

I always felt Braveheart popularized/established the drab and desaturated style for historical movies and shows.