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Started by Eddie Teach, March 06, 2011, 09:29:27 AM

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Tamas

Yeah the Napoleon trailer was impressive but watching it I was hoping I misunderstood something and this is going to be a mini-series. I guess it will be fine for people familiar with the history but I am sure it'll be a confusing mess for those with no prior interest in the era.

celedhring

Ridley Scott shooting Napoleonic battles is all I need. In the trailer there's at least Toulon, the Vendimiaire revolt, the Pyramids, Austerlitz, Waterloo... did I miss any?

Josquius

Quote from: celedhring on July 12, 2023, 03:19:04 AMRidley Scott shooting Napoleonic battles is all I need. In the trailer there's at least Toulon, the Vendimiaire revolt, the Pyramids, Austerlitz, Waterloo... did I miss any?

But how much will they get all squeezed into one film?

I wonder which ones will be totally cut. Not having watched the trailer yet... I could see Egypt just not happening :(
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grumbler

There are some historical inaccuracies in the film, like the "artillery breaks the ice," the cavalry charge (though that does show him as left-handed, something seldom seen in Napoleon depictions - we don't know for sure that he was), and what appears to be Napoleon's artillery blowing up British ships at Toulon.  Probably that's excusable as dramatic license (though there are so many actual dramatic moments in his life that none would seem to need to be made up) but it does raise concerns about how accurate Scott intended to be.

One of the more obvious problems is that Joaquin Phoenix looks like he is fifty years old playing a twenty-four-year-old in 1793 and looks like he is fifty years old playing a 44-year-old Napoleon at Waterloo.  I'm guessing that his face isn't one that takes well to de-aging makeup.
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The film will release and get panned for being a mess. A year later the director's cut will come out at 4 hours and 28 minutes and it will be lauded as a triumph of cinema.
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Josquius

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You don't really get multi part films anymore do you. I can't remember the last one other than avengers.
Dune stands out in not being this, part 2 as a straight sequel only starting to be made after 1.

Strikes me the lotr treatment would   be the best way to go with this
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I vote intermission with campy jingles imploring us to go to the lobby and get ourselves a snack.
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Yeah you still get intermissions in Indian cinema which is great, like RRR (:wub:).
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crazy canuck

Quote from: Josquius on July 12, 2023, 08:38:45 AMYou don't really get multi part films anymore do you. I can't remember the last one other than avengers.
Dune stands out in not being this, part 2 as a straight sequel only starting to be made after 1.

Strikes me the lotr treatment would   be the best way to go with this

The new MI movie

How is Dune 2 a sequel?  It is the second part of book 1.

Josephus

Quote from: grumbler on July 12, 2023, 08:02:43 AMThere are some historical inaccuracies in the film, like the "artillery breaks the ice," the cavalry charge (though that does show him as left-handed, something seldom seen in Napoleon depictions - we don't know for sure that he was), and what appears to be Napoleon's artillery blowing up British ships at Toulon.  Probably that's excusable as dramatic license (though there are so many actual dramatic moments in his life that none would seem to need to be made up) but it does raise concerns about how accurate Scott intended to be.

One of the more obvious problems is that Joaquin Phoenix looks like he is fifty years old playing a twenty-four-year-old in 1793 and looks like he is fifty years old playing a 44-year-old Napoleon at Waterloo.  I'm guessing that his face isn't one that takes well to de-aging makeup.

Jesus....movie's not out yet, and Languish is already dissing it.

Look, unless Napoleon takes the tube and talks strategy with the locals, I'm fine with it.
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grumbler

Quote from: Josephus on July 12, 2023, 10:46:20 AM
Quote from: grumbler on July 12, 2023, 08:02:43 AMThere are some historical inaccuracies in the film, like the "artillery breaks the ice," the cavalry charge (though that does show him as left-handed, something seldom seen in Napoleon depictions - we don't know for sure that he was), and what appears to be Napoleon's artillery blowing up British ships at Toulon.  Probably that's excusable as dramatic license (though there are so many actual dramatic moments in his life that none would seem to need to be made up) but it does raise concerns about how accurate Scott intended to be.

One of the more obvious problems is that Joaquin Phoenix looks like he is fifty years old playing a twenty-four-year-old in 1793 and looks like he is fifty years old playing a 44-year-old Napoleon at Waterloo.  I'm guessing that his face isn't one that takes well to de-aging makeup.

Jesus....movie's not out yet, and Languish is already dissing it.

Look, unless Napoleon takes the tube and talks strategy with the locals, I'm fine with it.

Jesus. someone makes an actual post about the actual content of the trailer, and Languish leaps to its defense without any actual intellectual arguments because... reasons.
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crazy canuck

Quote from: Josephus on July 12, 2023, 10:46:20 AM
Quote from: grumbler on July 12, 2023, 08:02:43 AMThere are some historical inaccuracies in the film, like the "artillery breaks the ice," the cavalry charge (though that does show him as left-handed, something seldom seen in Napoleon depictions - we don't know for sure that he was), and what appears to be Napoleon's artillery blowing up British ships at Toulon.  Probably that's excusable as dramatic license (though there are so many actual dramatic moments in his life that none would seem to need to be made up) but it does raise concerns about how accurate Scott intended to be.

One of the more obvious problems is that Joaquin Phoenix looks like he is fifty years old playing a twenty-four-year-old in 1793 and looks like he is fifty years old playing a 44-year-old Napoleon at Waterloo.  I'm guessing that his face isn't one that takes well to de-aging makeup.

Jesus....movie's not out yet, and Languish is already dissing it.

Look, unless Napoleon takes the tube and talks strategy with the locals, I'm fine with it.

I mean, a group of people who have an interest in history as the one thing that binds us together - shocking that someone would have some interesting comments about the trailer, immediately following a post of a video of an historian making interesting comments about the trailer  :P

Valmy

I don't know. 50 Year old 21st century movie star probably looks younger than a 23 year old in the 1790s  :P

From a personal level I worry about the POWER OF FILM because when I watch a film like this it has a powerful influence on how I mentally picture the historical figure involved. Speaking of Joaquin Phoenix I do have a little issue separating him with the Emperor Commodus for example.

So generally I find these kinds of films annoying. But I am sure my son will love it and anything to get him to see that France is #1 among Euro countries is good.
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