TV/Movies Megathread

[grumbler]

That looks like a picture of the two trees and perhaps Tirion, seems pre-first age to my eyes. Beautiful, is there more?

It does look like the two trees, but they should not both be bright at the same time.  That image must be either a flashback, or part of a preamble, since the story of the series is set much later (it will be basically the rise and fall of Numenor).

[grumbler]

Will it have Jacksonian moments?

  In this version, Numenor will be destroyed by a ghost army, not by the Valar.  Or maybe a ghost army made up of Valar ghosts.

The orcs were the good guys, just misunderstood.

Morgoth is the anti-hero in need of a redemption arc this year!

There's actually a book with that premise: The Last Ringbearer (download for free at https://www.tenseg.net/press/lastringbearer.  It's pretty interesting (and funny, in a number of ways).  Frodo and Sam are reimagined as orcs, and the nine members of the Fellowship in Tolkien is just a mistranslation of the nine Nazgul.

[Darth Wagtaros]

Huh.  I was expecting something like Grunts.

[Threviel]

Will it have Jacksonian moments?

  In this version, Numenor will be destroyed by a ghost army, not by the Valar.  Or maybe a ghost army made up of Valar ghosts.

It wasn't the Valar that destroyed Numenor, Manwë put up his hands and returned the guardianship of the world to Eru Iluvatar when the Numenoreans invaded and Eru in his turn reshaped the world to not include Numenor or Valinor for that matter. Which is of no practical consequence really and probably won't be discussed in the new series. 

Thinking more on the image it looks like it's a woman standing there, looking at the trees. Galadriel is presumably the only remaining high ranking woman that had seen the trees and still be central to the second age, presumably it's her memories we are seeing. She is, IIRC, the only high ranking elf left at all in the Middle Earth that has seen the trees. Perhaps Gil-Galad, but I seem to remember him being born in Middle Earth.

Is there any more information about the series? In my mind the fall of Numenor would make the best TV-show. They might tell also the story of the forging of the rings and the sack of Eregion, since most characters are immortal they then could skip 1500 years to the fall of Numenor without constantly having to introduce new human characters. They might end it with the war of the last alliance since once again the characters are the same. There's stuff there for a decade or more of tv.

[Darth Wagtaros]

Gil-Galad was born in Middle Earth. I think Galadriel would be the eldest and most powerful living being left in Middle Earth, outside of the Maiar, and things like Tom Bombadil.

[Syt]

Oooh, I hope to see Tom Bombadil!

[Tonitrus]

I tend to think it has been good to leave Tom out.  I think the hollywood dopes would try to "explain" him/his backstory...and I think he is better as an enigma.

[grumbler]

I think the figure in the painting is likelier to be Celebrimbor, who would be a much more central figure in the series than Galadriel.  It could also be a memory of Feanor by either Galadriel or Celebrimbor.



Tom Bombadil is such a hard figure to explain because Tolkien created him outside of the LOTR context as a character for stories he told his children (see The Adventures of Tom Bombadil), and added him to LOTR as kind of an easter egg for them.  He's best left out of any serious adaptation except in the briefest of terms, and Tolkien himself knew he couldn't explain Tom in the LOTR canon.

[Threviel]

Celebrimbor, of course, forgot about him. I agree, likelier.

Or, it could be Earendil and those trees just two random big trees with the sun rising behind them, since there are no other people around. Not very likely, those trees are not random big trees.

It could also be Melkor, seen from the viewpoint of a big ass spider.

[Darth Wagtaros]

I think Tom made his way into the Soviet adaptation of Lord of the Rings.

[The Brain]

Black Christmas. Sorority chicks get hunted by masked knifemen. Pretty good for the genre. It deals very explicitly with toxic masculinity/frat boy culture/call it what you will, and different aspects of this. Also, it has Cary Elwes.

[The Brain]

Aftermath. Couple buys cheap new house to save their marriage, but the house has a dark past. A lot better than average for the genre, even if it eventually does get silly. You actually care about their marriage.

[HVC]

The new suicide squad movie is, surprisingly, actually good.

[Josquius]

We were talking a while ago on here about how the simpsons has aged.
A realisation.
Skinner not being a Vietnam vet is obvious.
It must be the Gulf War.....
But.... Must it?
The Iraq War seems to make more sense.
#old

[Liep]

Suicide Squad. It's crazy fun and easily the best DC movie.