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The Brain

Conspiracy. B-list Nazis gather at posh house to sit down and decide the answer to the Jewish question. I liked it (the movie) a lot, but then I really like movies about work meetings and stuff, like Margin Call. I haven't read much about the conference so I cannot say much about historical accuracy, but it felt fairly realistic. NB: the Nazi from Conspiracy Theory wasn't there, ironically enough.
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Syt

Quote from: The Brain on January 26, 2021, 04:04:45 PM
Conspiracy. B-list Nazis gather at posh house to sit down and decide the answer to the Jewish question. I liked it (the movie) a lot, but then I really like movies about work meetings and stuff, like Margin Call. I haven't read much about the conference so I cannot say much about historical accuracy, but it felt fairly realistic. NB: the Nazi from Conspiracy Theory wasn't there, ironically enough.

IMDB says this (I've not verified the claims, though):

QuoteSince detailed records of the Wannsee Conference did not survive World War II, minor details of the movie (such as the seating arrangement at the conference table, what was actually served for lunch, and who was wearing a uniform compared to who wasn't) were totally up to the guess of the producers, and not based on any historical evidence. The producers and writer did have access to more primary material than it might seem at first. During his trial in Israel, Adolf Eichmann provided many details about the subject of the movie, even down to specific conversations, the general tone of the meeting, and other details. In particular, it's worth noting that a good bit of the dialogue in the movie is lifted verbatim from relevant memos and speeches by Nazi officials that were preserved, are part of the historical record, and cited by numerous sources. Many specific locutions used by the men in the movie can be found as cited, for instance, in Gitta Sereny's book "Albert Speer: His Battle with Truth" as well as other sources. The single-page, neutered summary of the meeting that survived in the files of the German Foreign Office is far from the only primary source used by the filmmakers.
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Sheilbh

Quote from: The Brain on January 26, 2021, 04:04:45 PM
Conspiracy. B-list Nazis gather at posh house to sit down and decide the answer to the Jewish question. I liked it (the movie) a lot, but then I really like movies about work meetings and stuff, like Margin Call. I haven't read much about the conference so I cannot say much about historical accuracy, but it felt fairly realistic. NB: the Nazi from Conspiracy Theory wasn't there, ironically enough.
Yeah I thought it was excellent. Great cast and very well made.
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The Brain

Quote from: Syt on January 26, 2021, 04:10:59 PM
Quote from: The Brain on January 26, 2021, 04:04:45 PM
Conspiracy. B-list Nazis gather at posh house to sit down and decide the answer to the Jewish question. I liked it (the movie) a lot, but then I really like movies about work meetings and stuff, like Margin Call. I haven't read much about the conference so I cannot say much about historical accuracy, but it felt fairly realistic. NB: the Nazi from Conspiracy Theory wasn't there, ironically enough.

IMDB says this (I've not verified the claims, though):

QuoteSince detailed records of the Wannsee Conference did not survive World War II, minor details of the movie (such as the seating arrangement at the conference table, what was actually served for lunch, and who was wearing a uniform compared to who wasn't) were totally up to the guess of the producers, and not based on any historical evidence. The producers and writer did have access to more primary material than it might seem at first. During his trial in Israel, Adolf Eichmann provided many details about the subject of the movie, even down to specific conversations, the general tone of the meeting, and other details. In particular, it's worth noting that a good bit of the dialogue in the movie is lifted verbatim from relevant memos and speeches by Nazi officials that were preserved, are part of the historical record, and cited by numerous sources. Many specific locutions used by the men in the movie can be found as cited, for instance, in Gitta Sereny's book "Albert Speer: His Battle with Truth" as well as other sources. The single-page, neutered summary of the meeting that survived in the files of the German Foreign Office is far from the only primary source used by the filmmakers.

Interesting. Thanks.
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Brannagh's Heydrich might be one of his finest performances.

Berkut

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So I watched the Dune movie. God, I knew it was supposed to be bad. But it was terrible.
The new one? :unsure:

No....the old one.

The TV movie, or Lynch's Dune?  The Lynch movie was dumb but kinda fun because it was so dumb.

The thing for me about Lynch's Dune is it mostly looks fantastic.  The worms, the guild navigator, the stillsuits - a lot of trippy stuff going on.

I always said it was a great but deeply flawed movie.

Bullshit. It was just deeply, deeply stupid.

"Trippy" is not a pass for stupid bullshit ridiculousness.

A movie is a thing that has to work on its merits, not on whether or not it has "some trippy stuff going on".
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Quote from: Sheilbh on January 26, 2021, 04:14:58 PM
Quote from: The Brain on January 26, 2021, 04:04:45 PM
Conspiracy. B-list Nazis gather at posh house to sit down and decide the answer to the Jewish question. I liked it (the movie) a lot, but then I really like movies about work meetings and stuff, like Margin Call. I haven't read much about the conference so I cannot say much about historical accuracy, but it felt fairly realistic. NB: the Nazi from Conspiracy Theory wasn't there, ironically enough.
Yeah I thought it was excellent. Great cast and very well made.

It's a movie I watch every year or so to remind myself of how evil can appear completely normal. Doesn't hurt that the acting and writing are so good it feels like I'm watching actual footage of the meeting.
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grumbler

Quote from: The Brain on January 26, 2021, 04:04:45 PM
Conspiracy. B-list Nazis gather at posh house to sit down and decide the answer to the Jewish question. I liked it (the movie) a lot, but then I really like movies about work meetings and stuff, like Margin Call. I haven't read much about the conference so I cannot say much about historical accuracy, but it felt fairly realistic. NB: the Nazi from Conspiracy Theory wasn't there, ironically enough.

Yeah, that was really well-done.  The businesslike working through all the potential solutions to the massive murder project they want to enact, before coming up with the Final Solution, was deeply chilling but utterly believable.  The whole "don't let the Fuhrer find out" side note was also very interesting, and apparently accurate.
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grumbler

Quote from: Berkut on January 26, 2021, 05:01:07 PM

Bullshit. It was just deeply, deeply stupid.

"Trippy" is not a pass for stupid bullshit ridiculousness.

A movie is a thing that has to work on its merits, not on whether or not it has "some trippy stuff going on".

I actually disagree that a movie has to "work on its merits" to "work." Lots of Cohen Brothers movies don't "work on their merits" but are fun anyway (e.g. Barton Fink). 
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viper37

I always liked Dune, I think it's a good movie.  Not great, unfortunately, but good.
Yes, it has flaws, it is a bit convoluted and it is campy.  But it's better than many other sci-fi movies of that time period.

I have it on blu ray and I still watch it from time to time.

Imho, the 2000 TV mini series was superior in quality, and gave a lot more details to the universe.  Sadly, it does not seem to exists in blu ray quality in english, only in german, at an insane price, for some weird reason.  The DVD are crap, and the low budget of television ca 2000 compared to regular movies does show.
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Ghost in the Shell (1995). In the future of 2029 cybernetics blurs the line between human and machine, and the only certainty is the importance of boobs and butts. Pretty good, I liked the environments, imagery, and tech interface stuff.
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Josephus

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I think it's quite a good film even apart from the technical level. But it is one of those films where if you're a certain age (and I am) you've first encountered it through the memes or the Simpsons :lol:

I get that.  You're unlikely to be surprised that Rosebud was the name of his sled, too.

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Quote from: viper37 on January 26, 2021, 10:37:56 PM


Imho, the 2000 TV mini series was superior in quality, and gave a lot more details to the universe.  Sadly, it does not seem to exists in blu ray quality in english, only in german, at an insane price, for some weird reason.  The DVD are crap, and the low budget of television ca 2000 compared to regular movies does show.

Available in a French blu-ray as well, but zone B and 50 Hz (HDTV source?) so not viewable on most North American blu-ray players.
Discontinued so expensive now though I got it for cheap since it was discontinued during a sale.
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Dune-Blu-ray/145246/

Not all of it is blu-ray quality, with some early CGI being just upscaled. It's a problem plaguing many series of that time cf. Babylon V, which only got a DVD release itself.

The Brain

Shame. Typical Languishite's routine of watching porn, jerking off in the office restroom, and creeping on women in the subway gets interrupted by his sister moving in unexpectedly. Not bad, if a bit artsy sometimes. Lots of skin and the chicks are hot. If you're a Michael Fassbender fan you'll enjoy watching him parade around with his schlong out.
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Sheilbh

Quote from: The Brain on January 27, 2021, 03:08:30 PM
Shame. Typical Languishite's routine of watching porn, jerking off in the office restroom, and creeping on women in the subway gets interrupted by his sister moving in unexpectedly. Not bad, if a bit artsy sometimes. Lots of skin and the chicks are hot. If you're a Michael Fassbender fan you'll enjoy watching him parade around with his schlong out.
I once took a date to see that :bleeding: :weep:
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