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CountDeMoney

Quote from: Berkut on November 30, 2017, 02:37:56 PM
What? Am I the only one who finds the 48 various super heroes and how they all appear in each others movies confusing?

Don't let comic book nerds push you around on their nonsense.

katmai

Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 30, 2017, 02:42:47 PM
Quote from: Berkut on November 30, 2017, 02:37:56 PM
What? Am I the only one who finds the 48 various super heroes and how they all appear in each others movies confusing?

Don't let comic book nerds push you around on their nonsense.
Fuck you and your wargaming dweeb brethren.
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Berkut

Quote from: katmai on November 30, 2017, 02:40:41 PM
Quote from: Berkut on November 30, 2017, 02:37:56 PM
What? Am I the only one who finds the 48 various super heroes and how they all appear in each others movies confusing?
well to a comic book nerd such as myself it is appalling you don't know who are DC and who are Marvel characters.

It would be one thing if there were just the two sets of producers, but there are two producers, and then within each there are different characters that maybe do or don't inhabit each others universes, right?

And its not like there is anything core about each of them to differentiate the world building. They both seem, to me, to be identical EXCEPT for the existence of the particular characters. Its not like the Marvel universe is somehow different from the DC one other than the characters, right?

It all seems like a jumbled mess. Then they re-boot them on top of that.
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HVC

easy to tell the difference. if the films seem unnecessarily dark, both in theme and visually, its a DC movie. If it's good its a marvel movie.
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Quote from: Berkut on November 30, 2017, 02:49:42 PM
Quote from: katmai on November 30, 2017, 02:40:41 PM
Quote from: Berkut on November 30, 2017, 02:37:56 PM
What? Am I the only one who finds the 48 various super heroes and how they all appear in each others movies confusing?
well to a comic book nerd such as myself it is appalling you don't know who are DC and who are Marvel characters.

It would be one thing if there were just the two sets of producers, but there are two producers, and then within each there are different characters that maybe do or don't inhabit each others universes, right?

And its not like there is anything core about each of them to differentiate the world building. They both seem, to me, to be identical EXCEPT for the existence of the particular characters. Its not like the Marvel universe is somehow different from the DC one other than the characters, right?

It all seems like a jumbled mess. Then they re-boot them on top of that.

Okay, when it comes to Superhero movies there is Marvel, then there is everyone else.

DC is absilutely confusing as hell.  They're rebooted Superman a couple of times.  God knows how many different Batmen we've had.  There's apparently a massive tonal shift between BvS and Justice League.

Same with Fox/X-Men - they've tried to soft re-boot with re-casting some characters, but then they go back in Logan to the original actors, but no one seems sure where in continuity they are.

Same with Sony/Spiderman - two reboots within 15 years or so.

But Marvel... there's no reboots.  All the movies tell an interconnected set of stories.  Nothing has been ret-conned, nothing has been re-booted.

Can Marvel be confusing at times?  Sure - that's what you get for having interconnected stories across a dozen or more movies!  After the Infinity War trailer, I had to go back and hit up some wikis to try and remember where we saw the various Infinity Macguffins, er, Stones, in the past movies.  But again you want to interconnect all these different elements over 10+ years it's going to be hard to keep track of.  That's a feature, not a bug.
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katmai

Quote from: Berkut on November 30, 2017, 02:49:42 PM


It would be one thing if there were just the two sets of producers, but there are two producers, and then within each there are different characters that maybe do or don't inhabit each others universes, right?

Correct, Marvel is still dealing with selling rights to the X Men and Fantastic Four to Fox in the 90's. Sony still owns rights to Spiderman but  the jumbled mess of reboots by them allowed them to bring the latest version into the Marvel Cinematic Universe which ir run by Marvel Studios (Really Disney as they own Marvel)

The DC movies are owned by Warner Brothers.

QuoteAnd its not like there is anything core about each of them to differentiate the world building. They both seem, to me, to be identical EXCEPT for the existence of the particular characters. Its not like the Marvel universe is somehow different from the DC one other than the characters, right?
Mostly right, except Marvel exists in our world where DC created a USA with cities  ala Gotham and Metropolis and the various cities of the secondary character (Star City, Central City, that being the most notable difference. And as HVC mentioned except for Wonder Woman film the MCU are better and lighter in tone.

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It all seems like a jumbled mess. Then they re-boot them on top of that.

the MCU has been created and shepherd to be different than that, but yes that has been a problem.
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Eddie Teach

Berkut, did you never watch Superfriends? All DC characters.
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Barrister

BY the way if anyone like me was confused by where we'd seen all the Infinity Stones before...

http://marvelcinematicuniverse.wikia.com/wiki/Infinity_Stones

Blue - tesseract - First used by Hydra in WWII, then used by Loki to open up the big invasion in Avengers, given to Asgard for safekeeping, then apparently used again by Loki to get onto Thor's ship to escape Asgard.

Yellow - mind stone - was in Loki's scepter, captured by the Avengers, now implanted in Vision's forehead.  I think we see Thanos plucking it from said forhead in the trailer.

Red - aether - seen in Thor 2, which despite me having seen I remember nothing about,  Given to the Collector for safekeeping, though his lab was blown up in GOTG1.

Purple - orb - the Macguffin in GOTG1.  Given to Nova Prime for safe keeping.

Green - Eye of Agamotto - used by Doctor Strange.

Orange - not yet seen.
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I could definitely see how someone could be confused by the MCU films if they assume that all superhero movies are in the same universe.  :hmm:
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celedhring

Quote from: The Larch on December 01, 2017, 12:24:23 PM
Quote from: katmai on November 30, 2017, 03:02:47 PMMarvel exists in our world

*Cough* Wakanda! *Cough*

Yeah, there's fictional countries aplenty in the MCU. Sokovia has shown up in a couple of films already, too.

katmai

Quote from: The Larch on December 01, 2017, 12:24:23 PM
Quote from: katmai on November 30, 2017, 03:02:47 PMMarvel exists in our world

*Cough* Wakanda! *Cough*
As always I'm only talking about the USA as we are only thing that matters, dirty euroweenie.
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celedhring

So, Netflix is going to reboot Sabrina The Teenage Witch as a horror series.  :hmm:


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The art of the deal- Johnny Depp as Donald Trump. Amusing. The funniest thing though... Netflix's because you watched this you might like suggestions.... A bunch of stuff about Hitler.
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HVC

Quote from: celedhring on December 03, 2017, 10:11:30 AM
So, Netflix is going to reboot Sabrina The Teenage Witch as a horror series.  :hmm:



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Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.