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Libyan Civil War Megathread

Started by jimmy olsen, March 05, 2011, 09:10:59 PM

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jimmy olsen

It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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Razgovory

I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

jimmy olsen

Quote from: Razgovory on August 15, 2011, 07:45:30 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 15, 2011, 07:33:01 PM
The Big Q is getting desperate. He's started shooting off Scuds.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/top/all/7698701.html

I wonder if he can hit Italy.
I think they could reach Sicily depending on where he launched them from in Libya.
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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Siege

Quote from: Mr.Penguin on August 15, 2011, 03:21:02 AM
From the Brega frontline...

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/15/world/africa/15libya.html?_r=1

QuoteThe rebels near Brega fired rockets from positions in a valley as their tanks, rarely seen in action, fired from the edge of a nearby hill. But at the sound of incoming rocket fire, the rebel fighters panicked, jumped in their trucks and drove away from the front lines.

Well, there is your problem... <_<


What did you seriously expect?
Muslims in general, and arabs in specific, have never been known for their bravery.
Yeah, they got nuts that blow themselves up.
That ain't bravery. That is a controlled detonation. You control the when and how.

Bravery is to face the uncertainty of combat well aware of the consequences.
Uncertainty. Not knowing where that bullet is going to hit you, what limb that IED is going to take from you.
Not knowing if today is the day.


"All men are created equal, then some become infantry."

"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't."

"Laissez faire et laissez passer, le monde va de lui même!"


Ed Anger

Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

Neil

I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Siege on August 15, 2011, 07:52:06 PM
Muslims in general, and arabs in specific, have never been known for their bravery.

Just finished reading a book on the French Foreign Legion; it mentions several times the bravery of he tirailleurs algeriens, especially during the conquests of Indochina and of Madagascar.

Ed Anger

Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 15, 2011, 07:57:33 PM
Quote from: Siege on August 15, 2011, 07:52:06 PM
Muslims in general, and arabs in specific, have never been known for their bravery.

Just finished reading a book on the French Foreign Legion; it mentions several times the bravery of he tirailleurs algeriens, especially during the conquests of Indochina and of Madagascar.

The Moroccans and Algerians in Juin's corps in Italy were pretty nasty also.
Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

citizen k

Quote from: Ed Anger on August 15, 2011, 08:05:57 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 15, 2011, 07:57:33 PM
Quote from: Siege on August 15, 2011, 07:52:06 PM
Muslims in general, and arabs in specific, have never been known for their bravery.

Just finished reading a book on the French Foreign Legion; it mentions several times the bravery of he tirailleurs algeriens, especially during the conquests of Indochina and of Madagascar.

The Moroccans and Algerians in Juin's corps in Italy were pretty nasty also.

nasty ≠ brave



The Larch

QuoteTripoli facing three-sided advance by Libyan rebels

Capital faces onslaught from south, east and west as rebel commanders say they have made significant advances

There are rumours of Gadaffi soon leaving the country and Tunisia willing to give him asylum. Sounds weird but stranger things have happened.

Razgovory

Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 15, 2011, 07:57:33 PM
Quote from: Siege on August 15, 2011, 07:52:06 PM
Muslims in general, and arabs in specific, have never been known for their bravery.

Just finished reading a book on the French Foreign Legion; it mentions several times the bravery of he tirailleurs algeriens, especially during the conquests of Indochina and of Madagascar.

When I read a book on the Spanish Civil War I got the impression that the Moroccans were the only soldiers really worth a damn, at least in the beginning.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Razgovory on August 19, 2011, 07:54:47 PM
When I read a book on the Spanish Civil War I got the impression that the Moroccans were the only soldiers really worth a damn, at least in the beginning.

Does take some cojones to invent (and use) the Molotov cocktail on the spur of the moment.

Beevor's book made it sound like the Spanish Foreign Legion knew what they were doing too.

dps

Quote from: Razgovory on August 19, 2011, 07:54:47 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 15, 2011, 07:57:33 PM
Quote from: Siege on August 15, 2011, 07:52:06 PM
Muslims in general, and arabs in specific, have never been known for their bravery.

Just finished reading a book on the French Foreign Legion; it mentions several times the bravery of he tirailleurs algeriens, especially during the conquests of Indochina and of Madagascar.

When I read a book on the Spanish Civil War I got the impression that the Moroccans were the only soldiers really worth a damn, at least in the beginning.

Well, that's sort of true.

Moroccan units were by far the best units at the start, but that was mostly because the Moroccan troops didn't really care about the politics of the SCW, they just followed their officer's orders.  And the officers were almost entirely on the rebel side, because as I understand it, it was SOP in Spain to send the disaffected members of the officer corps to Morocco.  In most of the rest of the army, the units more-or-less fell apart, because their officers were split between the 2 sides. 

Iormlund

They were also regular troops pitted against militias.

Berkut

Quote from: Razgovory on August 15, 2011, 07:45:30 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 15, 2011, 07:33:01 PM
The Big Q is getting desperate. He's started shooting off Scuds.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/top/all/7698701.html

I wonder if he can hit Italy.

The real question is whether or not he can hit Spain.
"If you think this has a happy ending, then you haven't been paying attention."

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