Protest, Insurgency, and the Workings of White Privilege

Started by Faeelin, April 22, 2010, 08:47:01 AM

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grumbler

#30
April 22, 2010, 01:42:48 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on April 22, 2010, 12:40:19 PM
Quote from: grumbler on April 22, 2010, 12:18:26 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on April 22, 2010, 11:25:19 AM
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I love that the article uses as its "typical" examples the worst possible extremist's, and assumes that this is representative of the entirety of the Evil Racist Right.

And then you come along, look at derspeiss making a single particular complaint about a very particular instance, and think "Hey, this is JUST what that guy was talking about!" Hell, the guy in question is bonkers, and your attempt to tie in derspeiss in is even MORE bonkers.

It is like you are intentionally setting out to show how completely dis-associated with actual arguments you can make a bunch of hyperbole illustrate.

I didn't see the word typical in there once.
It's his ninth word.

I thought it was of.
Nope.

1. I
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Right there.  Ninth word, as noted earlier.
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grumbler

#31
April 22, 2010, 01:46:47 PM
Quote from: derspiess on April 22, 2010, 01:38:26 PM
So in your opinion I should show as much scorn for US citizens protesting their government as I should for people who are here illegally demanding things they are not entitled to?
Not the issue.  Tea party people are also demanding things they are not "entitled to." 

As for the immigration protesters being "here illegally" that is generally false.  The bulk of those protesters were also US citizens, according to random sampling.

Not that you should let mere facts get in the way of a good froth.
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Eddie Teach

#33
April 22, 2010, 02:05:04 PM
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citizen k

#34
April 22, 2010, 02:07:17 PM
Quote from: Faeelin on April 22, 2010, 01:19:05 PMBut I suppose in general I think the protests of tea parties have been covered much more symapthetically than other protests in the last few years.

Yeah, teabagger is such an honorific.

derspiess

#36
April 22, 2010, 02:22:04 PM
Quote from: grumbler on April 22, 2010, 01:46:47 PM
Not the issue.  Tea party people are also demanding things they are not "entitled to." 

Oh, like citizenship for a country they entered illegally & reside/work in illegally?  Damn those tea partiers!

QuoteAs for the immigration protesters being "here illegally" that is generally false.  The bulk of those protesters were also US citizens, according to random sampling.

Not that you should let mere facts get in the way of a good froth.

Oh, okay.  I'll take your word for it.  Thanks.  Kinda odd for US citizens to be waving Mexican flags like crazy.

Anyway, I'm sure some were citizens, but there were still large numbers of illegals who had the cojones to demand citizenship.  It's like an uninvited guest who shows up at a party at your house & then demands that you let him move in.
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Eddie Teach

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April 22, 2010, 02:36:11 PM
Quote from: JonasSalk on April 22, 2010, 02:17:57 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 22, 2010, 02:05:04 PMNancy_Pelosi_Young_Bikini

Why do I doubt that?

I bet you don't believe in the Diet Dr. Pepper guy either.
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JonasSalk

#38
April 22, 2010, 02:41:14 PM
You know, I've never actually had Diet Dr. Pepper, seeing as how I'm not a raging fatass.
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Razgovory

#39
April 22, 2010, 04:01:03 PM
Quote from: derspiess on April 22, 2010, 02:22:04 PM


Oh, okay.  I'll take your word for it.  Thanks.  Kinda odd for US citizens to be waving Mexican flags like crazy.


It's kinda odd for several states to incorporate the flag of the greatest enemy of the US into the state flags.  They call it heritage.  Bleh.
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Lettow77

#40
April 22, 2010, 04:10:27 PM
The US is privileged indeed if its "greatest enemy" is a country it has fought merely one war with, and that war was a war of conquest and annexation - on the US's part.

Also, language like that ignores the fact that we are at least nominally part of your country. It certaintly doesnt encourage reconciliation or anything like it.
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Jaron

#41
April 22, 2010, 04:16:49 PM
Oddly enough, I'm in agreement with derspiess on this.

If people want to move to America that is great. If they want to become Americans even better. But this requires a certain commitment to the new country and an acceptance that you must leave part of the old behind. There is no "We're bringing Mexico with us" Bring the food, even the language for all I care, but the flags and the loyalties have to change.

I don't really understand the need for Hispanics to push so hard for amnesty and all that. Don't they realize the people coming from Mexico are the peasantry or worse? You don't see middle class white Americans pushing for hillbilly rights.

Its very strange to me.
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Savonarola

#42
April 22, 2010, 04:19:35 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on April 22, 2010, 04:01:03 PM


It's kinda odd for several states to incorporate the flag of the greatest enemy of the US into the state flags.  They call it heritage.  Bleh.

AFAIK only the Caliphate of South Carolina has the crescent moon on it.  :unsure:


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Jaron

#43
April 22, 2010, 04:34:19 PM
There is a load of difference between these people betraying the US to show support for a foreign country and state flags putting the Union Jack on them. In fact, I think it is a Hindu symbol of peace.  :hmm:
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