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Started by jimmy olsen, March 30, 2010, 10:48:19 PM

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Valmy

Quote from: Sheilbh on April 05, 2010, 06:42:10 PM
This is an interesting thought.

I'm torn on this law. 

Again if they are going to make it illegal for women to work certain jobs they better damn well have the decency to do the same for us.
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    :( man, no economy, no boobs. and it's Iceland. I guess they still got Bjork.
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Drakken

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Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on April 05, 2010, 10:22:19 PM
    :( man, no economy, no boobs. and it's Iceland. I guess they still got Bjork.

And EVE-O's CCP, whose net worth will soon exceed Iceland's.  :menace:

Returning to the subject, I find hypocritical the idea that free people are deemed exploited because they are "forced" to work to feed off lifestyle habits (i.e. drugs) that they have themselves chosen to undertake. Many of them use drugs and alcohol. So what? Many "legit" workers are drug addicts and alcoholics as well. Are their jobs exploitative as well?

More like a double standard and clueless stereotypes to me : Working the sex industry is dirty, working in sewage draining is not. However people cannot blame the women (or call them skanks, teases, golddiggers or hookers like they used too). That would be mean to these "poor little girls" as it is now seen as being not of their fault; they are misled in the industry, they are clueless, eager to please, exploited victims needing only to be helped out of this vicious circle, and so on. So instead of blaming the woman's lifestyle choices, we demonize the men who seek them, call them pigs and dirty lechers, and now penalize them and hunt them down in some countries (like Sweden and Norway now, where actually seeking and hiring a legally consenting adult prostitute is illegal). :rolleyes:

Strippers, just like common workers, sell their workforce (in their case their talent for bodily tease) to gain their wages. Unless they are coerced to work by a pimp or a gang and are battered into selling their body, they can use the fruits of their work as they see fit and working the sex industry is a personal choice. Sometimes the least bad choices of those available to an individual, yes, but a choice nonetheless.

I mean yeah, they could work as a cashier in some convenience store and be "respected" for a shitty wage (they are not, more often then not), or they can be payed c*ckteases and win a shitload of money each night. I have more respect for women who learn to use their bodies to work men's instincts to milk them out of their money, and make tons of cash out of it. And to some of them, this actually pay their studies to be able to work in more "respectable", higher-end jobs.

The only people who see it as truly demeaning are women who cannot work in strip clubs anyway because either they are too gung-ho, manhaters, and/or lesbians, or women who have had really, really bad experiences in the sex trade and want to spare other women from living the same (who are I empathize more with than the former, as I agree violent, abusive pimps, madams, and customers should be hunted down and dealt with).

I asked to women around me, including my girlfriend, (in Montreal, with its reputation of third-wave feminism and moral liberalization) about the ban of strip clubs, and they are all bewildered about that law, because they do not consider stripping in clubs for money as demeaning to women. Some opined that this was more as a value judgment and culpability from a few militant elected feminists enshrined in body of law.

But I ask the all-important question: are male strip clubs banned too in Iceland? From what I read, they aren't covered by this new law (they fix only on the women in the articles). So in effect, if they are not, the same work is legally deemed demeaning to women in Iceland, but not to men.

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Quote from: Drakken on April 06, 2010, 09:13:09 AM
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Sheilbh

Quote from: Valmy on April 05, 2010, 09:58:09 PM
Again if they are going to make it illegal for women to work certain jobs they better damn well have the decency to do the same for us.
I'd have no problem with banning strip joints.
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Ed Anger

Quote from: Sheilbh on April 06, 2010, 12:40:24 PM
Quote from: Valmy on April 05, 2010, 09:58:09 PM
Again if they are going to make it illegal for women to work certain jobs they better damn well have the decency to do the same for us.
I'd have no problem with banning strip joints.

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garbon

Quote from: Ed Anger on April 06, 2010, 12:56:21 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on April 06, 2010, 12:40:24 PM
Quote from: Valmy on April 05, 2010, 09:58:09 PM
Again if they are going to make it illegal for women to work certain jobs they better damn well have the decency to do the same for us.
I'd have no problem with banning strip joints.

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I have no problem with it either. Strip joints are dull and pretty gross.
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I don't really see the appeal of strip clubs. Blue balls or coming in your pants(and in a room full of people)? No thanks.
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Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 06, 2010, 03:54:32 PM
I don't really see the appeal of strip clubs. Blue balls or coming in your pants(and in a room full of people)? No thanks.

There was one year in university when a bunch of my fraternity buddies and I somehow managed to get VIP cards to the local strip club (which meant free covers).

The "appeal" was that it was a male-only environment, and the dancers liked and encouraged us to be loud and boisterous.  You weren't worrying about trying to pick up women so no one was trying to look 'cool'.  To my mind the strippers themselves were almost peripheral to the experience.

What I didn't get were the creepy guys sitting in the back by themselves. :unsure:
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garbon

Quote from: Barrister on April 06, 2010, 04:01:02 PM
The "appeal" was that it was a male-only environment, and the dancers liked and encouraged us to be loud and boisterous.  You weren't worrying about trying to pick up women so no one was trying to look 'cool'.  To my mind the strippers themselves were almost peripheral to the experience.

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Quote from: garbon on April 06, 2010, 12:59:11 PM
I have no problem with it either. Strip joints are dull and pretty gross.
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