The End of Christian America

[Martinus]

See, Catholicism isn't that bad.  Their willingness to compromise every one of their principles in an effort to be accepted is commendable.  That's why I don't get all the bitching about condoms and abortion from the Church.

The Church wants to increase the number of Catholics.

Then again, I guess it depends on who the Church is going for.  To increase their flock in North America, they need to say 'Yay condoms!'.  On the other hand, Africans hate condoms.

Why would you want your followers to suffer from various stages of a lethal disease, though?

[Martinus]

  Today there are more active Christians in China than in Europe (and the number appears to be growing rapidly),

Christianity is even on the rise in a number of arab countries. Algeria for example has seen a boom (heh) in it's numbers of christians. And mostly young people at that too. Only question is how long they'll remain christian and wether or not they can expand their numbers further.

Still, it's not like these are secular humanists converting to Christianity there. Of the two evils, I'd rather have more Christians than more Muslims. It's like going from childhood to puberty.

[Neil]

See, Catholicism isn't that bad.  Their willingness to compromise every one of their principles in an effort to be accepted is commendable.  That's why I don't get all the bitching about condoms and abortion from the Church.

The Church wants to increase the number of Catholics.

Then again, I guess it depends on who the Church is going for.  To increase their flock in North America, they need to say 'Yay condoms!'.  On the other hand, Africans hate condoms.

Why would you want your followers to suffer from various stages of a lethal disease, though?

It's not ideal, but Africans hate condoms anyways, so what difference does it make?

[The Brain]

Relying on the goodness of people's hearts to keep them from doing bad things to each other is a losing proposition; we need fear of external consequences. In the modern world, we have government for that, so religion is losing its power.

People are animals.

[The Nickname Who Was Thursday]

Would Martinus be less a whiny bitch if he wasn't gay?

Oddly enough, I think he'd be more like garbon if he wasn't gay. He'd still gripe about stuff but not care enough about anything to go into deep hysterical mode.

[Martinus]

Would Martinus be less a whiny bitch if he wasn't gay?

I would have directed my ire at whiny emo wastes-of-oxygen like yourself, instead.

[Neil]

Would Martinus be less a whiny bitch if he wasn't gay?

Oddly enough, I think he'd be more like garbon if he wasn't gay. He'd still gripe about stuff but not care enough about anything to go into deep hysterical mode.

Disagree.  He'd be even more ferociously anti-American.

[Grey Fox]

Would Martinus be less a whiny bitch if he wasn't gay?

I would have directed my ire at whiny emo wastes-of-oxygen like yourself, instead.

You're the gay lawyer here. Who's wasting oxygen now?

[Ed Anger]

Holy shit. In a Martinus- Gay Fox slapfight, I don't know who to root for.

[The Nickname Who Was Thursday]

Disagree.  He'd be even more ferociously anti-American.

Perhaps. But he'd have one less thing to hate us for.

[Neil]

Disagree.  He'd be even more ferociously anti-American.

Perhaps. But he'd have one less thing to hate us for.

Wrong.  As a Polish Catholic, he'd hate American fag-enablers.

[Maximus]

My guess is he'd be a Neo-Nazi.

[Grey Fox]

Holy shit. In a Martinus- Gay Fox slapfight, I don't know who to root for.

There can be no winners, only tears.

[garbon]

Oddly enough, I think he'd be more like garbon if he wasn't gay. He'd still gripe about stuff but not care enough about anything to go into deep hysterical mode.

But I'm the actually gay one.

[Ed Anger]

Holy shit. In a Martinus- Gay Fox slapfight, I don't know who to root for.

There can be no winners, only tears.

However, his tears would be a biohazard, while yours would be bitter emo tears.