The End of Christian America

[Razgovory]

The evangelicals can grow all they like in the third world, so long as their numbers continue to collapse in the first world.  The numbers of Southern Baptists are down a little, and that's a start.

Strictly speaking southern baptists are not evangelicals, IIRC.

They're definitely protestants.

They're something like Wiccans and believe that they have the original Chrisitianity that they kept secret from the world for 1000 years or so.

[Siege]

Man, why the hell did this thread got so many posts?

I can't read that fast!

Do what i do and post something nonsensical and off topic!

But I want to read it.
Can I get a sumary?

[Martinus]

Man, why the hell did this thread got so many posts?

I can't read that fast!

Do what i do and post something nonsensical and off topic!

But I want to read it.
Can I get a sumary?

Yahweh sucks donkey cock. He hates you, too. Southern Baptists are not Evangelicals. Lapsed catholics are, though.

Did I get it right, guys?

[Barrister]

The evangelicals can grow all they like in the third world, so long as their numbers continue to collapse in the first world.  The numbers of Southern Baptists are down a little, and that's a start.

Strictly speaking southern baptists are not evangelicals, IIRC.

They're definitely protestants.

Both you and Martinus are men.

That doesn't mean you're gay however.

[Sheilbh]

Where is the room for growth?  Well its two-fold.  First is the developing world.  Latin America, Asia, is probably the source of most of the growth.  But beyond that most "mainstream" Christian denominations continue to see falling numbers, so there is plenty of room for growth there.

The evangelicals can grow all they like in the third world, so long as their numbers continue to collapse in the first world.  The numbers of Southern Baptists are down a little, and that's a start.

But the number of people who describe themselves as 'born again' is up.  Meanwhile, to use a hideous phrase I saw in the Wall Street Journal (barely better than the Telegraph and 'staycation'), 'pastorpaneurs' (God help me!) are growing their churches/businesses in South Korea, China, Latin America and Africa.  China's got more Christians (and they tend to be individualist, emotional outbursty Christians) than they have Communist Party members.  It's about to become one of the world's largest Christian countries (not to mention Muslim countries).

America has showed, yet again, that it's true skill is turning something once for an elite into something everyone can have.  In this case even the elect don't match American mass capitalism.

[katmai]

Both you and Martinus are men.

That doesn't mean you're gay however.

[Martinus]

The evangelicals can grow all they like in the third world, so long as their numbers continue to collapse in the first world.  The numbers of Southern Baptists are down a little, and that's a start.

Strictly speaking southern baptists are not evangelicals, IIRC.

They're definitely protestants.

Both you and Martinus are men.

That doesn't mean you're gay however.

That's at least two erroneous statements right there.

[Sheilbh]

They're something like Wiccans and believe that they have the original Chrisitianity that they kept secret from the world for 1000 years or so.

I know.  The earliest Christian writings we have, before the fucking Nicene Creed, uses analogy to study the Bible and yet now, 2000 years later we discover that's wrong and the meaning's there all along.  I mean Christ alive the Church was built on Jewish and Greek culture, it was never going to be that simple.

[Barrister]

Both you and Martinus are men.

That doesn't mean you're gay however.

Did you and Neil have a tender moment together you'd like to talk about?

[katmai]

Did you and Neil have a tender moment together you'd like to talk about?

He's already said he'd bury me, so i better not say anything. 

[Neil]

They're something like Wiccans and believe that they have the original Chrisitianity that they kept secret from the world for 1000 years or so.

It's not really so odd, given that many Christians believe that their god sent everybody to hell for millions of years before Jesus came along.

[Martinus]

Did you and Neil have a tender moment together you'd like to talk about?

He's already said he'd bury me, so i better not say anything. 

Maybe he will bury you for bukkake only?

[Siege]

Martinus, I wish so much you were an arab in whatever country I'm deploying next.

[ulmont]

Strictly speaking southern baptists are not evangelicals, IIRC.

Based on what?

Southern Baptist Identity: An Evangelical Denomination Faces the Future

http://www.amazon.com/Southern-Baptist-Identity-Evangelical-Denomination/dp/1433506793

The Southern Baptist Convention, the largest Protestant denomination with 16 million members, has provoked sharp criticism in recent years for its attempts to convert Jews, Muslims and Hindus. This year, the SBC announced a new evangelistic campaign in six religiously diverse cities in the North and West, and that too drew complaints.

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/religionandethics/week345/feature.html

This week, CBS News' Brian Goldsmith talked with one of the nation's key evangelical leaders, Richard Land, president of the Southern Baptist Convention's Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/08/08/politics/politicalplayers/main4331863.shtml

Global Evangelical Relations

http://www.sbc.net/globalrelations/

GuideStone Financial Resources exists to assist the churches, denominational entities, and other evangelical ministry organizations by making available retirement plan services, life and health coverage, risk management programs and personal and institutional investment programs.

http://www.sbc.net/aboutus/legal/guidestone.asp

It looks like others consider Southern Baptists Evangelical, like the Southern Baptists call themselves at least in part Evangelical, and like the Southern Baptists act in an Evangelical manner...

[Neil]

The evangelicals can grow all they like in the third world, so long as their numbers continue to collapse in the first world.  The numbers of Southern Baptists are down a little, and that's a start.

Strictly speaking southern baptists are not evangelicals, IIRC.

They're definitely protestants.

Both you and Martinus are men.

That doesn't mean you're gay however.

True, but 'man' isn't a synonym for 'gay'.