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Started by DGuller, February 23, 2010, 11:41:12 AM

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DGuller

Quote from: Berkut on February 23, 2010, 12:13:58 PM
Quote from: DGuller on February 23, 2010, 11:59:16 AM
Just a vibe more than anything else. 

If I had to identify the moment, it would be the endless saga about the shin.  That has to be the most famous shin in the world.  It was also a very convenient shin.  If you fail, you got an excuse.  If you succeed, you got an enormous obstacle that you heroically overcame.  Before either happens, you get to give interviews after interviews with minute-by-minute updates on the well-being of your shin.

The second moment would be the crying that went on and on and on after she won the gold, and didn't stop until the camera stopped pointing in her face.  Please.  Lots of people cry when they win, even men do, but the uncontrollable sobbing that lasts minutes?  That's just creepy.

She won the 2008 and 2009 World Championships. I don't think she really needs to invent injuries in order to create an excuse in case she doesn't win. What an odd accusation to make - does she have a history of fake injuries or something?

How do you know the sobbing stopped when the camera was no longer pointed at her face, since presumably you could no longer see her? Are you saying that the crying, along with the shin injury, was faked?

Maybe she should be getting an Oscar instead of a gold medal, since she apparently planned out this fake injury so she could excuse the fake crying after her not so fake gold medal.

Dude, unless you know something I do not, you are the biggest killjoy over Olympic emotions ever. The girl won a freaking gold medal, and she got emotional. So what. Nobody forced NBC to shove a camera in her face afterward. Your problem with her is way more creepy than her crying... :huh:
Not faking, exaggerating for attention.  Skiers compete hurt all the time, some even after falling at 90 mph the day before.  Sorry if I'm not uniquely impressed by the plight of her bruised shin.

Berkut

Quote from: DGuller on February 23, 2010, 12:20:50 PM

Not faking, exaggerating for attention.  Skiers compete hurt all the time, some even after falling at 90 mph the day before.  Sorry if I'm not uniquely impressed by the plight of her bruised shin.

I'm not uniquely impressed either - but I am not uniquely distressed by it, which is more to the point.

When the favorite is injured, it is a story. I don't like prima donna athletes anymore than you do, believe me, I just don't see what makes her more of a prima donna than anyone else. She got hurt, of course they are going to ask her about the injury, and she is going to answer. I don't see where she exaggerated it, but like I said, maybe you saw more than I did.

I certainly don't see how you can conclude that her crying was exaggerated - I mean, I suppose it could be, but how can you tell? I think I saw what you were talking about, and I probably even thought it was a bit silly, but it never really crossed my mind that she was faking it.

I guess I am just not as cynical as you.
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DisturbedPervert

Don't know who she is

Quote from: sbr on February 23, 2010, 11:46:34 AM
The US media coverage of her is way over the top, but you can't really blame her for that.  Though like anyone who gets that treatment - Tiger Woods, Tim Tebow- Tom Brady- it makes it very hard to like them even though it is not directly their fault.

I like Tiger a lot more now then I did a few months ago.  Seems less like a robot or space alien

Savonarola

QuoteLindsey Vonn mocks Tiger Woods: 'I too have a sex problem'
BY Nathaniel Vinton
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER

Originally Published:Sunday, February 21st 2010, 4:22 PM
Updated: Sunday, February 21st 2010, 10:31 PM

'WHISTLER, B.C. - It doesn't show up in the medal count, but on Friday morning Lindsey Vonn won a gold medal in candor.

In a story posted at Time.com, the double medalist is quoted as mocking disgraced golfer Tiger Woods for the carefully scripted televised statement Woods read on Friday. The story recounts how Vonn, hanging out with her entourage on Friday at the Olympics, was told about the hugs that Woods got from supporters after reaching the end of his statement.

"They're like, 'Yeah, you're awesome, you go have that sex," Vonn is quoted as saying. The story then describes Vonn imagining herself in a Saturday Night Live skit, pretending to read a solemn apology from a podium.

"There's something you don't know about me," Vonn is quoted as saying, pretending to read a solemn script. "Tiger, you're like my idol, and I too have a sex problem."

The story, written by Sean Gregory, says this bit of ribaldry took place at the USA House, a space rented by the U.S. Olympic Committee for its athletes, staff, sponsors, families, and other supporters to congregate during the Games.

Vonn was there Friday, and several people present say they didn't know her words were being recorded. Her husband and adviser, Thomas Vonn, did not reply to requests for comment.

Gregory, the Time.com author of the story, posted a Tweet saying his publication stood by its reporting and that "L. Vonn's comments about Tiger Woods were not off-the-record."

Perhaps the most delicious irony of the episode is that Vonn, like Woods, is managed by IMG, the same talent agency that devised Woods' carefully scripted performance on Friday.

Kick them when they're down, that's what I say.
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DGuller

Quote from: Berkut on February 23, 2010, 12:24:54 PM
I'm not uniquely impressed either - but I am not uniquely distressed by it, which is more to the point.
The point is that skiers typically don't turn their injuries into a saga, they just go on with it.
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When the favorite is injured, it is a story. I don't like prima donna athletes anymore than you do, believe me, I just don't see what makes her more of a prima donna than anyone else. She got hurt, of course they are going to ask her about the injury, and she is going to answer. I don't see where she exaggerated it, but like I said, maybe you saw more than I did.
My impression was that the story wasn't just generated by NBC, with Lindsey just being there answering questions.
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I guess I am just not as cynical as you.
I'm usually not cynical, but when someone starts to very actively build their image and name recognition to the world at large, and shortly after that has a public emotional drama or two, I think it's natural to feel suspicious.

Savonarola

Quote from: DGuller on February 23, 2010, 11:59:16 AM
If I had to identify the moment, it would be the endless saga about the shin.  That has to be the most famous shin in the world.  It was also a very convenient shin.  If you fail, you got an excuse.  If you succeed, you got an enormous obstacle that you heroically overcame.  Before either happens, you get to give interviews after interviews with minute-by-minute updates on the well-being of your shin.

It's the American way.  :swiss:
In Italy, for thirty years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love, they had five hundred years of democracy and peace—and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock

Berkut

Quote from: DGuller on February 23, 2010, 12:36:35 PM
Quote from: Berkut on February 23, 2010, 12:24:54 PM
I'm not uniquely impressed either - but I am not uniquely distressed by it, which is more to the point.
The point is that skiers typically don't turn their injuries into a saga, they just go on with it.

Again, perhaps you have seen something I have not...what has she done to "turn her injury into a saga". Not what has the media done, but what has SHE done?

I honestly do not know - I imagine there is something, or else you would not have this unique distress over her.
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When the favorite is injured, it is a story. I don't like prima donna athletes anymore than you do, believe me, I just don't see what makes her more of a prima donna than anyone else. She got hurt, of course they are going to ask her about the injury, and she is going to answer. I don't see where she exaggerated it, but like I said, maybe you saw more than I did.
My impression was that the story wasn't just generated by NBC, with Lindsey just being there answering questions.

Oh, I see. Where did this impression come from, since I think I missed whatever it was that gave that impression. I thought she got hurt, she was the #1 skier in her event, her being hurt was news (probably overstated news, but the media has a lot of time to fill at the Olympics, so they tend to over-report any actual story), and I didn't really see anything about HER pushing the story.

Like I said, I must have missed something.
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I guess I am just not as cynical as you.
I'm usually not cynical, but when someone starts to very actively build their image and name recognition to the world at large, and shortly after that has a public emotional drama or two, I think it's natural to feel suspicious.

What has she done that is so active?

What was the "public emotional drama or two" - her crying after she won a gold medal? How can you tell that was faked - I am still curious about that. At the very least, isn't that just one drama, and not a very dramatic drama at that, and the only reason it is public is because she did in fact win the gold medal in public, and the crying came right after it?

Assuming the crying was genuine (and she is a damn good actress if she can break into tears on demand if it wasn't) how would she have done so such that it would NOT be in public? Maybe she could have asked to ski her event in private somewhere?
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I'm guessing Dguller is just emotionally exhausted from the whole ordeal.  Either that, or she personally told him she'd never have sex with him even if she won a gold medal at the Olympics.
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DGuller

Meh, I'll pass, this topic isn't important enough to have a protracted debate over.

grumbler

Quote from: Razgovory on February 23, 2010, 01:21:49 PM
I'm guessing Dguller is just emotionally exhausted from the whole ordeal.  Either that, or she personally told him she'd never have sex with him even if she won a gold medal at the Olympics.
My guess is that she told him the only way she'd have sex with him was if he won a gold medal at the Olympics, he misunderstood, and the denouement has left him bitter.
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Quote from: DGuller on February 23, 2010, 01:22:53 PM
Meh, I'll pass, this topic isn't important enough to have a protracted debate over.
Well, you learned that you know how to do a poll, so it was worth doing.

It remains to be seen if you know when to do a poll, though.  :ph34r:
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Razgovory

Quote from: grumbler on February 23, 2010, 01:23:45 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 23, 2010, 01:21:49 PM
I'm guessing Dguller is just emotionally exhausted from the whole ordeal.  Either that, or she personally told him she'd never have sex with him even if she won a gold medal at the Olympics.
My guess is that she told him the only way she'd have sex with him was if he won a gold medal at the Olympics, he misunderstood, and the denouement has left him bitter.

If only he went in to skiing instead of becoming an actuary.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

DGuller

Quote from: Razgovory on February 23, 2010, 01:21:49 PM
I'm guessing Dguller is just emotionally exhausted from the whole ordeal.  Either that, or she personally told him she'd never have sex with him even if she won a gold medal at the Olympics.
I guess I am scarred in some way.  As a racing fan, these days I want to gag when hearing "Danica Patrick".  If there ever was a vapid marketing excercise disguised as a sports person, she is it.  Of course, it isn't fair to Vonn, unlike Patrick she's actually good at what she does.

Berkut

Quote from: DGuller on February 23, 2010, 01:22:53 PM
Meh, I'll pass, this topic isn't important enough to have a protracted debate over.

probably true. I don't even know that you are wrong even - I am just trying to figure out where the "vibe" came from. You are pretty uniquely nasty to her, so I am guessing it has to come from something.

So far the poll shows that your unique contempt for her is unique in that it isn't shared by anyone else as well.
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Berkut

Quote from: DGuller on February 23, 2010, 01:26:52 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 23, 2010, 01:21:49 PM
I'm guessing Dguller is just emotionally exhausted from the whole ordeal.  Either that, or she personally told him she'd never have sex with him even if she won a gold medal at the Olympics.
I guess I am scarred in some way.  As a racing fan, these days I want to gag when hearing "Danica Patrick".  If there ever was a vapid marketing excercise disguised as a sports person, she is it.  Of course, it isn't fair to Vonn, unlike Patrick she's actually good at what she does.


Hmmmm, we might be making some progress here in figuring out your "unique" contempt for particular sports figures. Why do you reserve this contempt for the marketing of sports figures to only women?

Tell us about your mother.
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