Senator Lieberman INtroduces Bill to Repeal DADT

Started by Faeelin, February 22, 2010, 01:02:45 PM

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DGuller

Quote from: Neil on February 22, 2010, 07:32:04 PM
I'd be willing to accept repeal so long as the gays are all drafted and then either used to clear minefields or gassed.  That's my opening position, but I'd be willing to go as far as only having flamboyant homos and Martinus killed, and treating those gays who attempt to integrate and hide their sickness as if they were productive citizens.
:o That's a terrible thing to say.

Faeelin

Quote from: Barrister on February 22, 2010, 06:42:06 PM
The follow up to my question then would be has the SoD (or anyone else) ever formally asked the military for their opinion on DADT?

I'm confused. In what other capacity would the Joint Chief have testified before the Senate?

And Alfred, is McCain really that close to losing?

alfred russel

Quote from: DGuller on February 22, 2010, 08:17:13 PM
Quote from: Neil on February 22, 2010, 07:32:04 PM
I'd be willing to accept repeal so long as the gays are all drafted and then either used to clear minefields or gassed.  That's my opening position, but I'd be willing to go as far as only having flamboyant homos and Martinus killed, and treating those gays who attempt to integrate and hide their sickness as if they were productive citizens.
:o That's a terrible thing to say.

:lol:Being shocked by Neil saying something terrible is as silly as being pissed off that a Republican doesn't support gay equality just before a primary in Arizona.
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alfred russel

Quote from: Faeelin on February 22, 2010, 08:21:04 PM
Quote from: Barrister on February 22, 2010, 06:42:06 PM
The follow up to my question then would be has the SoD (or anyone else) ever formally asked the military for their opinion on DADT?

I'm confused. In what other capacity would the Joint Chief have testified before the Senate?

And Alfred, is McCain really that close to losing?

Probably not. This is what Rasmussen says in the first google link I could find:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections2/election_2010/election_2010_senate_elections/arizona/election_2010_arizona_republican_primary_for_senate

QuoteFollowing news that Sarah Palin will campaign for him in Arizona, Senator John McCain has opened a significant lead in the Republican Primary campaign.

A new Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of likely 2010 Republican Primary voters in Arizona finds the longtime incumbent leading former Congressman J.D. Hayworth by a 53% to 31% margin. In November, the two candidates were virtually even.

Former Minuteman leader Chris Simcox gets four percent (4%) support, while three percent (3%) prefer some other candidate and eight percent (8%) are undecided.

Bringing in Palin is significant for a candidate who has always had a troubled relationship with the Republican base. Polling last fall found that 61% of Arizona Republicans said McCain was out of touch with the party base.

(Want a free daily e-mail update? If it's in the news, it's in our polls). Rasmussen Reports updates are also available on Twitter or Facebook.

Nationally, 75% of Republican voters say their congressional leaders are out of touch.

At the other extreme, 59% of Republican voters say Palin, McCain's 2008 vice presidential running mate, shares the values of most GOP voters throughout the nation. Palin is critical of the internal workings of last year's campaign effort in her new book but continues to praise McCain. While campaign staffers have fired back at Palin, McCain, too, has been complimentary about her.
To further shore up his position, McCain is also bringing in Scott Brown, the senator-elect from Massachusetts.

Hayworth, a conservative former congressman who now is a popular radio talk show host in Phoenix, is reportedly interested in the race but has not formally declared for it. For McCain, the GOP Primary appears to be his biggest challenge since no major Democrats in the state have stepped forward yet to run against him.

Still, 74% of likely GOP Primary voters have at least a somewhat favorable opinion of McCain, a figure that has not changed since November. Hayworth's favorable ratings are down nine points to 58%.
Perhaps more significantly, the number with a Very Favorable opinion of McCain has jumped 10 points since last fall to 45%.

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
-garbon, February 23, 2014

Barrister

Quote from: Faeelin on February 22, 2010, 08:21:04 PM
Quote from: Barrister on February 22, 2010, 06:42:06 PM
The follow up to my question then would be has the SoD (or anyone else) ever formally asked the military for their opinion on DADT?

I'm confused. In what other capacity would the Joint Chief have testified before the Senate?

And Alfred, is McCain really that close to losing?

I dunno - you tell me.
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QuoteFollowing news that Sarah Palin will campaign for him in Arizona, Senator John McCain has opened a significant lead in the Republican Primary campaign.


There's something just...backwards about that.
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Quote from: MadImmortalMan on February 22, 2010, 11:22:16 PM

QuoteFollowing news that Sarah Palin will campaign for him in Arizona, Senator John McCain has opened a significant lead in the Republican Primary campaign.


There's something just...backwards about that.

There's something deeply wrong about that.  Also J. D. Hayward is a dick.
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Jaron

Poor McCain. Hes gone from being top dog to lap dog.
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Marti isn't particularly flamboyant although it is obvious when you meet him.
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"Complacency can be a self-denying prophecy."
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Winner of THE grumbler point.

The Brain

What about homos who are simply buoyant, like katmai?
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Quote from: garbon on February 23, 2010, 12:35:17 AM
Marti isn't particularly flamboyant although it is obvious when you meet him.

What is obvious? That he's a Compleat Wanker?
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