UK-Israel relations hit the rocks over Dubai assanation

[grumbler]

I'm all with the Brits on this. This is fucking disgraceful (I am not talking about killing some Hamas dude but stealing the identities of British citizens to carry out the deed). Fucking Jews think they can do anything because their American fuckbuddies will protect them.

Don't waste your breath on responding to Raz's Marti's inane trolls.

[Agelastus]

Go Mossad! 

Assuming Mossad did it:

I'm all for killing Hamas guys and other crazy mohammedeans but Mossad doesn't really deserve praise for the way they handled the operation.

As for the Uk's outrage...meh who cares.

It does seem particularly clumsy for a Mossad operation. Given the method of assassination, I don't see why an 11 man (or larger) team was needed. Admittedly, I am talking about this as an amateur, but bunching up that way in the corridor looks dreadfully unprofessional.

I wonder if this could be a Fatah Op with a dual goal. Kill the Hamas man and frame the Israelis...




OK, that's a bit paranoid. Still seems clumsy though.

[Martinus]

I'm all with the Brits on this. This is fucking disgraceful (I am not talking about killing some Hamas dude but stealing the identities of British citizens to carry out the deed). Fucking Jews think they can do anything because their American fuckbuddies will protect them.

Don't waste your breath on responding to Raz's Marti's inane trolls.

What's so trollish about my post? The usage of British passports and identity theft by Mossad has been called "outrage" by David Milliband. How is my post different from that sentiment?

[Grey Fox]

Next time, use Canadian passports. We won't care.

[Ed Anger]

I'm all with the Brits on this. This is fucking disgraceful (I am not talking about killing some Hamas dude but stealing the identities of British citizens to carry out the deed). Fucking Jews think they can do anything because their American fuckbuddies will protect them.

Don't waste your breath on responding to Raz's Marti's inane trolls.

What's so trollish about my post? The usage of British passports and identity theft by Mossad has been called "outrage" by David Milliband. How is my post different from that sentiment?

You have become: The Polack Tim.

[Neil]

I'm all with the Brits on this. This is fucking disgraceful (I am not talking about killing some Hamas dude but stealing the identities of British citizens to carry out the deed). Fucking Jews think they can do anything because their American fuckbuddies will protect them.

Don't waste your breath on responding to Raz's Marti's inane trolls.

What's so trollish about my post? The usage of British passports and identity theft by Mossad has been called "outrage" by David Milliband. How is my post different from that sentiment?

Histrionics.  Also, one should avoid agreeing too closely with David Milliband.

[grumbler]

What's so trollish about my post? The usage of British passports and identity theft by Mossad has been called "outrage" by David Milliband. How is my post different from that sentiment?

Quote from the Polack antisemite:

Fucking Jews think they can do anything because their American fuckbuddies will protect them.

All antisemitic statements are, by definition, trolls (just like all the other types of racist ranting).

I know you are going to try to weasel out of the tag of antisemite, but frankly wish you wouldn't bother.  You won't convince anybody and will just spam the thread with more vapid bullshit.  An intellectually honest person would acknowledge the clear fact that they are antisemetic and vow to do something about it.  I rather doubt that that describes you, though.

[The Minsky Moment]

MI6 has never used forged passports?  Hmm . . .

UK response seems a tad on the hysterical side.  If this is an "outrage" what descriptors are left when something really serious happens?

Two early casualties of this affair:
+ Mossad reputation for operational competence and plausible deniability
+ British reputation for calm understatement.

[Ed Anger]

Mart is just mad we have jew fuckbuddies, while they killed theirs off.

[The Brain]

MI6 has never used forged passports?  Hmm . . .

Elaborate.

[Gups]

MI6 has never used forged passports?  Hmm . . .

UK response seems a tad on the hysterical side.  If this is an "outrage" what descriptors are left when something really serious happens?

Two early casualties of this affair:
+ Mossad reputation for operational competence and plausible deniability
+ British reputation for calm understatement.

Nobody in the Govt has described this as an "outrage".

If you strip out the journalistic spin there's not much there at all. The reporter has written this up as if it's very serious on the basis, from what I can gather, of a single unnamed "official". It might be serious, but I wouldn't assume so on the basis of this report. Sadly, British journalists hype up everything these days in a desperate attempt to get attention.

[Gups]

Incidentally, I think there is a distinction between using false passports and identity theft.

A slightly less hysterical article from the Times. Despiter what Milliband says, he obviously is just going to go through the motions and hope the story just dies down. Hence the investigation to kick the whole thing into the long grass. 

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article7031988.ece?token=null&offset=0&page=1

[Martinus]

MI6 has never used forged passports?  Hmm . . .

UK response seems a tad on the hysterical side.  If this is an "outrage" what descriptors are left when something really serious happens?

Two early casualties of this affair:
+ Mossad reputation for operational competence and plausible deniability
+ British reputation for calm understatement.

There is a difference between forging passports and actually using names and identities of existing innocent British citizens.

It's absolutely amazing to what lengths you will always go to defend your Israeli buddies. They can do no wrong, can they?

[Martinus]

Nobody in the Govt has described this as an "outrage".

Are you saying the UK foreign secretary is not in the govt?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8521246.stm

David Miliband vows to "get to the bottom" of how the alleged killers of a Hamas leader used fake UK passports in what he calls an "outrage"

[Martinus]

What's so trollish about my post? The usage of British passports and identity theft by Mossad has been called "outrage" by David Milliband. How is my post different from that sentiment?

Quote from the Polack antisemite:

Fucking Jews think they can do anything because their American fuckbuddies will protect them.

All antisemitic statements are, by definition, trolls (just like all the other types of racist ranting).

I know you are going to try to weasel out of the tag of antisemite, but frankly wish you wouldn't bother.  You won't convince anybody and will just spam the thread with more vapid bullshit.  An intellectually honest person would acknowledge the clear fact that they are antisemetic and vow to do something about it.  I rather doubt that that describes you, though.

Wow, what a load of bullshit. Being angry at Israel for putting lives of citizens of a friendly country in danger makes one an antisemite now?