Suggest a country to play in EUII

[dps]

OK, I just finished a game as Lithuania, and started a new game as Vijaynganer (or however you spell the dang place) but I'm not really into it.  So give me some advice on a different country to play.

I've played most of the big European powers a lot, so I'm kind of tired of them.  I've also played the Ottomans, Timurids, Mamluks, and Golden Horde recently, so I'm not really keen on playing them again right now.  I would kind of like to play a Southeast Asian or Indian nation, but every time I've tried, their slow tech progression has made me want to tear my hair out (which is why I'm not satisfied with my current game).  I've played the Ming several times (tough not recently) and as Japan.  I don't want to play a pagan nation, or a OPM or TPM, since the things you have to do to get ahead have always struck me as too gamey and exploitative. 

I didn't buy HttT, so I'm playing IN with the latest patch.  No mods.

[Grey Fox]

Can you play as one of the First Nations of America?

[jimmy olsen]

You mean EUIII right?

HttT is pretty awesome in my opinion.

What about the Byzantines? They start out a two province minor, but given the Ottoman's Timurid troubles, they're in position to rapidly make a comeback.

EDIT: He said no Pagans Grey Fox.

[Grey Fox]

Oh.

That's a yes to my question then?

[Barrister]

I second the "you meant EU3 right"?

I loved 2 for it's time, but 3 plus expansions blows it out of the water.  By the way - HttT is worth the money.

Some suggestions: you've played the major Euro powers, what about the smaller players (but not quite OPM/TPMs)?  Denmark, Scotland, Hungary, Bavaria (though it might be only 2 provinces), papal states?  Big enough to not be too gamey, but still pretty small, and you need to think on your feet.

What about an African nation?  Ethiopia will have poor tech, but isn't pagan.

[katmai]

He says in the post he's playing IN so of course it's EU3 you goofballs.

[Habbaku]

I second BB's recommendation to pick up HTTT.  It makes the game a million times better and it's only $10.

Regardless, even if you don't want to make the expenditure, I think Bavaria is the way to go.  They have four provinces that are fairly rich and can intervene a lot in the stuff that goes on around them.  In addition, they stand a good chance of eventually becoming Emperor, which will really allow them to throw their weight around.  You'll also be in prime position to engage in a lot of religious wars with other German powers in the 1500s or so, should you wish it.

[sbr]

He says in the post he's playing IN so of course it's EU3 you goofballs.

But the title says EUII, to be fair.

[katmai]

He says in the post he's playing IN so of course it's EU3 you goofballs.

But the title says EUII, to be fair.

Yet is one reads the post then there is no doubt to which version, so are you calling Timmay and Beeb illiterate?

[sbr]

He says in the post he's playing IN so of course it's EU3 you goofballs.

But the title says EUII, to be fair.

Yet is one reads the post then there is no doubt to which version, so are you calling Timmay and Beeb illiterate?

Yet if one loses interest in the OP, and either misses or skims the last sentence one might not catch that he was talking about EU3.

[katmai]

I would never do that to the OP of a thread, so you sir are a horrible human being!

[dps]

Sorry 'bout the typo.