Chinese people foresee a cold war with US

[jimmy olsen]

Meh, they're already doing all of that.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/chinese-people-foresee-a-cold-war-with-us/story-e6frg6so-1225827605814

Chinese people foresee a cold war with US
Michael Sheridan
From: The Australian
February 08, 2010 12:00AM

MORE than half of Chinese people questioned in a poll believe China and the US are heading for a new "cold war".

The finding came after battles over Taiwan, Tibet, trade, climate change, internet freedom and human rights, which have poisoned relations in the three months since US President Barack Obama made a fruitless visit to Beijing.

Diplomatic sources said a rancorous post-mortem is under way in the US government, led by officials who think the President was badly advised on China and was made to appear weak.

In China's eyes, the US response, including a pledge to get tougher on trade, is a reaction against its rising power.

Now almost 55 per cent of those questioned for Global Times, a state-run newspaper, agree that "a cold war will break out between the US and China".

An independent survey of Chinese-language media for The Sunday Times has found army and navy officers predicting a military showdown and political leaders calling for China to sell more arms to US foes.

The trigger for their fury was Mr Obama's decision to sell weapons to Taiwan. "We should retaliate with an eye for an eye and sell arms to Iran, North Korea, Syria, Cuba and Venezuela," declared Liu Menxiong, a member of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference.

He added: "We have nothing to be afraid of. The North Koreans have stood up to America and has anything happened to them? No. Iran stands up to America and does disaster befall it? No."

China has threatened sanctions against US firms selling arms to Taiwan and cancelling military visits. But Chinese analysts think the leadership may go further. "This time, China must punish the US," said Major-General Yang Yi, a naval officer. "We must make them hurt."

Chinese indignation was compounded when the White House said Mr Obama would meet the Dalai Lama, the exiled spiritual leader of Tibet. "When someone spits on you, you have to get back," said Huang Xiangyang, in the China Daily.

US officials seem baffled by what has gone wrong. During Mr Obama's visit, the US ambassador to China, Jon Huntsman, claimed relations were "at an all-time high in terms of the bilateral atmosphere . . . a cruising altitude that is higher than any other time in recent memory".

The ambassador must have been the only person at his embassy to think so. "The atmosphere was cold and intransigent when the President went to Beijing yet his China team went on pretending that everything was fine," a diplomat said.

President Hu Jintao refused to give an inch on Mr Obama's plea to raise the value of the Chinese currency, while his vague promises of co-operation on climate change led the Americans to blunder into a fiasco at the Copenhagen summit.

Diplomats say they have been told that there was "frigid" personal chemistry between Mr Obama and Mr Hu.

Then came Copenhagen, where Mr Obama virtually had to force his way into a room where Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao was trying to strike a deal behind his back.

[Alcibiades]

We should fuck with them over all the little bullshit they pull.   

[Strix]

Fuck'em. It would crush their economy to be denied US markets. They are in a lose-lose situation.

[Viking]

Fuck'em. It would crush their economy to be denied US markets. They are in a lose-lose situation.

Just remember to tank the USDollar, to fuck up their currency reserves.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

it won't take another 10 years for the Chinese to replace the Americans as the most hated nation on the planet. Anti-amercanism will look quaint soon.

[Jaron]

Americans are too weak to win another cold war.

[CountDeMoney]

it won't take another 10 years for the Chinese to replace the Americans as the most hated nation on the planet. Anti-amercanism will look quaint soon.

Don't count on it.

[CountDeMoney]

Americans are too weak to win another cold war.

At least with China.  Too many people making a buck to care.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

Americans are too weak to win another cold war.

At least with China.  Too many people making a buck to care.

didn't people say the same in 1914 and germany?

[CountDeMoney]

Americans are too weak to win another cold war.

At least with China.  Too many people making a buck to care.

didn't people say the same in 1914 and germany?

No. No, they didn't.

[Josquius]

it won't take another 10 years for the Chinese to replace the Americans as the most hated nation on the planet. Anti-amercanism will look quaint soon.

hmm, I dunno. When the Chinese are bad its a different kind of evil to the US, more sneaky and less blowing shit up and screaming 'America fuck yeah!'.
Though they are coming to be quite hated in Africa outside of Africa many people are hardly aware they're even getting involved there.
Maybe Africa being a big black hole in the world consciousness has something to do with it 

[Darth Wagtaros]

it won't take another 10 years for the Chinese to replace the Americans as the most hated nation on the planet. Anti-amercanism will look quaint soon.

hmm, I dunno. When the Chinese are bad its a different kind of evil to the US, more sneaky and less blowing shit up and screaming 'America fuck yeah!'.
Though they are coming to be quite hated in Africa outside of Africa many people are hardly aware they're even getting involved there.
Maybe Africa being a big black hole in the world consciousness has something to do with it 

Racist. 

[Grallon]

The Soviets didn't


a) own a large chunk of the US' public debt
b) manufacture most of the junk americans take for granted


It's already started - 5 years ago the Chinese president would have been honored to meet with the US president; nowadays he sends an undersecretary to humiliate Obama.  That's how low you guys have sunk.

In short you'd lose this time around I'm afraid. 




G.

[Valmy]

b) manufacture most of the junk americans take for granted

Whateva.  A few years ago the Koreans and the Taiwanese made it.  In the future somebody else will.  China is hardly important for this element.

[Alcibiades]

The Soviets didn't


a) own a large chunk of the US' public debt
b) manufacture most of the junk americans take for granted


It's already started - 5 years ago the Chinese president would have been honored to meet with the US president; nowadays he sends an undersecretary to humiliate Obama.  That's how low you guys have sunk.

In short you'd lose this time around I'm afraid. 




G.

Guess what, you're tied completely to our situation.