Republican Candidates for the 2012 Nomination

Started by stjaba, February 10, 2010, 08:53:19 PM

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Agelastus

I love the "Israel" one because of the inadvertent truthfulness of it.

And I actually wish more politicians would put waffle eating ahead of reporters.
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Razgovory

So you are comparing her to person you believe to be completely dishonest and utterly unqualified?  That's great Hans!
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Viking

Quote from: Hansmeister on February 14, 2010, 12:06:23 PM
Apparently Tina Fey was good at convincing people that she is quoting Sarah Palin.  In which way is Sarah Palin a "bible basher"?

She did call herself a "Bible Believing Christian"
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Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Maximus

Quote from: Viking on February 14, 2010, 11:24:02 AM

Hansie, if this is an example of the skills of US psyops then I fear for US psyops. If this is your standard then I assume the Taliban picks up your leaflets just as much for the comedy value as the toilet paper value.
Hans has been running a brilliant and highly effective psyops campaign for the Democratic Party for years now.

Viking

Quote from: Maximus on February 14, 2010, 12:56:39 PM
Quote from: Viking on February 14, 2010, 11:24:02 AM

Hansie, if this is an example of the skills of US psyops then I fear for US psyops. If this is your standard then I assume the Taliban picks up your leaflets just as much for the comedy value as the toilet paper value.
Hans has been running a brilliant and highly effective psyops campaign for the Democratic Party for years now.

That I can believe.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Neil

Quote from: Hansmeister on February 14, 2010, 12:06:23 PM
In which way is Sarah Palin a "bible basher"?
She defines herself as a 'Bible-believing Christian'.
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dps

Quote from: Viking on February 14, 2010, 12:47:17 PM
Quote from: Hansmeister on February 14, 2010, 12:06:23 PM
Apparently Tina Fey was good at convincing people that she is quoting Sarah Palin.  In which way is Sarah Palin a "bible basher"?

She did call herself a "Bible Believing Christian"

I think that the term you wanted to use was "Bible thumper", not "Bible basher".  A Bible thumper is someone who is always quoting the Bible and is in-your-face about his faith (and there is some connotation that he is hypocritical about it, too).  A Bible basher is someone who disparages the Bible and the faith it promulgates.

And that sort of misuse of words is a lot of what people jump on Palin and other conservatives or Republicans for, but tend to give liberals and Democrats a pass on (such as Obama's remarks that Hans posted).  Really, it's appropriate to give politicians a pass on slipups like that--as you have inadvertantly demonstrated, it's something that everybody does, and it's not any sign of the person being stupid.

It is fun to point out such slipups and use them to make fun of politicians we don't agree with (I've certainly done it) but it doesn't actually mean anything, so don't confuse it with honest discussion of the issues.

Ed Anger

Quote from: Maximus on February 14, 2010, 12:56:39 PM
Quote from: Viking on February 14, 2010, 11:24:02 AM

Hansie, if this is an example of the skills of US psyops then I fear for US psyops. If this is your standard then I assume the Taliban picks up your leaflets just as much for the comedy value as the toilet paper value.
Hans has been running a brilliant and highly effective psyops campaign for the Democratic Party for years now.

Counteracted by Gullermeister and Mart's constant shrill fagg0try.
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garbon

Quote from: dps on February 14, 2010, 03:13:16 PM
And that sort of misuse of words is a lot of what people jump on Palin and other conservatives or Republicans for, but tend to give liberals and Democrats a pass on (such as Obama's remarks that Hans posted).  Really, it's appropriate to give politicians a pass on slipups like that--as you have inadvertantly demonstrated, it's something that everybody does, and it's not any sign of the person being stupid.

It is fun to point out such slipups and use them to make fun of politicians we don't agree with (I've certainly done it) but it doesn't actually mean anything, so don't confuse it with honest discussion of the issues.

Except that in Palin's case, it isn't really slipups so much as she often spouts complete gibberish.
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Hansmeister

Quote from: Viking on February 14, 2010, 12:47:17 PM
Quote from: Hansmeister on February 14, 2010, 12:06:23 PM
Apparently Tina Fey was good at convincing people that she is quoting Sarah Palin.  In which way is Sarah Palin a "bible basher"?

She did call herself a "Bible Believing Christian"
Wow, that is certainly beyond the pale, she's identifying herself with 85% of the American public, including Obama.  Apparently Obama going to a nutty racist church for twenty years makes him an intellectual while Sarah Palin saying she is a christian makes her dumb.  Understood.

Hansmeister

So sofar the evidence the Palin-haters have arraigned against her has been a SNL skid by Tina Fey and the fact that she is a christian.  Wow, you guys certainly have made an airtight case against her.  :lmfao:

Fate

Quote from: Hansmeister on February 14, 2010, 05:18:25 PM
Quote from: Viking on February 14, 2010, 12:47:17 PM
Quote from: Hansmeister on February 14, 2010, 12:06:23 PM
Apparently Tina Fey was good at convincing people that she is quoting Sarah Palin.  In which way is Sarah Palin a "bible basher"?

She did call herself a "Bible Believing Christian"
Wow, that is certainly beyond the pale, she's identifying herself with 85% of the American public, including Obama.  Apparently Obama going to a nutty racist church for twenty years makes him an intellectual while Sarah Palin saying she is a christian makes her dumb.  Understood.
WTF are you smoking? :huh:

Obama is neither a Christian nor an American. He's a Muslim Kenyan (or perhaps Indonesian).

Barrister

Quote from: Hansmeister on February 14, 2010, 05:20:59 PM
So sofar the evidence the Palin-haters have arraigned against her has been a SNL skid by Tina Fey and the fact that she is a christian.  Wow, you guys certainly have made an airtight case against her.  :lmfao:

I fell off the Palin bandwagon when she couldn't even finish a single term as Governor of Alaska.

She seems like a decent enough person, but not qualified at this point to be President.
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Neil

Quote from: Hansmeister on February 14, 2010, 05:18:25 PM
Wow, that is certainly beyond the pale, she's identifying herself with 85% of the American public, including Obama.  Apparently Obama going to a nutty racist church for twenty years makes him an intellectual while Sarah Palin saying she is a christian makes her dumb.  Understood.
That's disingenuous of you.  'Bible-believing' is a code word for 'fundamentalist Protestant', and those are far fewer than 85% of the American public.

Besides, being a fundamentalist Christian and being part of Obama's church of racial hatred is pretty much equally nutty.
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Galrion

Quote from: Hansmeister on February 14, 2010, 05:20:59 PM
So sofar the evidence the Palin-haters have arraigned against her has been a SNL skid by Tina Fey and the fact that she is a christian.  Wow, you guys certainly have made an airtight case against her.  :lmfao:

I'm pretty sure the comments were supposed to be something along the lines of: Palin claiming to be a bible believing christian = bible bashing.  The implication being that she hardly models the bible at all.  In other news, the case against her is simple, she's an idiot.  It comes out every time she opens her mouth.  I've wanted Mcain to have the repub nomination for the last decade and he managed to lose my support the instant he hitched his wagon to that stump.