NCAA 2009

[Valmy]

Big 10 wants to expand to become Big 12 part deux.

Considering taking shitty Big 12 school Missouri: http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_saturday/post/The-Big-Ten-wants-to-expand-at-last-But-to-whe?urn=ncaaf,208264#remaining-content

If they take them off our hands I say we throw in Iowa State as a two-fer.

[MadImmortalMan]

Hoo boy. It won't be Mizzou. The only one that totally makes sense is Notre Dame, but they won't join.

[Eddie Teach]

So you are telling the fact the East voted for Ingram is proof that it was not East Coast bias?  This is not quite on Gino Torreta over Marshall Faulk levels of East Coast bias but it was pretty bad.

I think there was regional bias everywhere, including the West, but I don't think that's the main thing that won Ingram votes in Chicago or Philly. Though considering how close it was, any factor contributing votes to Ingram *could* be labeled decisive, I think the teams' records is the one I'd choose.

[Berkut]

So you are telling the fact the East voted for Ingram is proof that it was not East Coast bias?  This is not quite on Gino Torreta over Marshall Faulk levels of East Coast bias but it was pretty bad.

I think there was regional bias everywhere, including the West, but I don't think that's the main thing that won Ingram votes in Chicago or Philly. Though considering how close it was, any factor contributing votes to Ingram *could* be labeled decisive, I think the teams' records is the one I'd choose.

I always find the "teams record" thing rather stupid when it comes to individual awards.

If you are comparing stats, and one players stats are better than the others, but the other was on a better team....doesn't that actually say a lot more for the guy who was NOT on the #1 overall team in the country?

Of course the real reason is that Gerhart is from the West. Nothing to do with anything other than that - it's not like it was any secret how good he was out here, although of course the press did not notice him until they could no longer ignore him.

[Admiral Yi]

If I had a vote I would have a hard time giving it to a guy named Toby.

[Eddie Teach]

I always find the "teams record" thing rather stupid when it comes to individual awards.

If you are comparing stats, and one players stats are better than the others, but the other was on a better team....doesn't that actually say a lot more for the guy who was NOT on the #1 overall team in the country?

I'm not sure the team records say much either way. Alabama's defense was a hell of a lot better than Stanford's, and that has nothing to do with Ingram and Gerhart. But it's the kind of thing voters latch on to.

[grumbler]

I always find the "teams record" thing rather stupid when it comes to individual awards.

If you are comparing stats, and one players stats are better than the others, but the other was on a better team....doesn't that actually say a lot more for the guy who was NOT on the #1 overall team in the country?

Of course the real reason is that Gerhart is from the West. Nothing to do with anything other than that - it's not like it was any secret how good he was out here, although of course the press did not notice him until they could no longer ignore him.

Agree, but would also add that West Coast players have won Heisman trophies before.  In this case, i would argue that the fact that Gerhart was playing for a team traditionally seen as a patsy that hurt the most.  Had he been playing for Northwestern, he would have faced the same problem (i.e. "if he was really that good, why didn't a good team land him?")

[grumbler]

Jim Harbaugh staying at Stanford through 2014
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-t25-stanford-harbaugh&prov=ap&type=lgns

  I reckon we know of at least one school whose offer he can, by contract, accept in spite of this deal.  Stanford gets better next year, and they stash my choice to run the Michigan program for another year.  That is win-win, baby!

[MadImmortalMan]

Jim Harbaugh staying at Stanford through 2014
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-t25-stanford-harbaugh&prov=ap&type=lgns

  I reckon we know of at least one school whose offer he can, by contract, accept in spite of this deal.  Stanford gets better next year, and they stash my choice to run the Michigan program for another year.  That is win-win, baby!

The flaw in your plan is that RichRod has to languish and continue to be bad, thus failing to redeem himself.

[Ed Anger]

Big 10 wants to expand to become Big 12 part deux.

Considering taking shitty Big 12 school Missouri: http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_saturday/post/The-Big-Ten-wants-to-expand-at-last-But-to-whe?urn=ncaaf,208264#remaining-content

If they take them off our hands I say we throw in Iowa State as a two-fer.

As long as they don't raid the MAC, it might be okay.

I won't like the GAME not being the end all, be all in the conference as it usually is.

[MadImmortalMan]

Hoo boy. It won't be Mizzou. The only one that totally makes sense is Notre Dame, but they won't join.

Actually, Pitt might kinda make sense as a rival for Penn State.

[Valmy]

Locker staying for his senior year at Washington: http://washington.scout.com/2/929008.html

[Berkut]

Locker staying for his senior year at Washington: http://washington.scout.com/2/929008.html

Wow. Can't say I blame him, but on the other hand, it seems very foolish.

[katmai]

Locker staying for his senior year at Washington: http://washington.scout.com/2/929008.html

Wow. Can't say I blame him, but on the other hand, it seems very foolish.

He likes playing in college, he already has a pro contract with the Angels, so i'm sure can afford to take out a fat insurance policy. It will be a very interesting season in 2010 for Huskies, as they only lose two of the starting 11 on Offense. (Fullback and one OL)

[grumbler]

The flaw in your plan is that RichRod has to languish and continue to be bad, thus failing to redeem himself.

How is that a flaw?  It is just a fact.  This year's Michigan team was no better than last year's, it just had an easier schedule.  RichRod appears to completely lack any talent for actual coaching (though I don't question that he is a smart guy who knows the theory cold).