NCAA 2009

[Valmy]

Anyone watching the Griz - Mountaineers 1AA semifinal game now?

I watched the last 5 minutes or so.  Great game I had forgotten how good Armani Edwards was...of course beating Michigan is just not as amazing now as it was two years ago.

[Sophie Scholl]

Edit:  Oh..Turner Gill at Kansas?  Bleh.

  He'll be missed.

[katmai]

WTF, they gave the trophy to him?

[Valmy]

WTF, they gave the trophy to him?

That was bullshit.  Ingram nearly fumbled away the game against Tennessee and then he has a 30 yard 18 carry game against Auburn and all that is forgiven.  Neither Toby Gerhart nor Suh shit the bed in big situations like that.  It just shows how fickle and ridiculous the sports media is.  They all watched him be good against Florida and that is all that matters.  The last game on TV the rest of the season doesn't mean a thing.

But then that is exactly why I thought Ingram would win it.

[MadBurgerMaker]

Toby Gerhart

Should have won it.

[Valmy]

Toby Gerhart

Should have won it.

Yep.  East Coast bias big time.  You know the whole South East made damn sure nobody from the West would beat one of their favored sons.

[katmai]

I will sleep well knowing the following though.

Saturday night, the winner of the 75th Heisman Memorial Trophy Award will be announced at the Nokia Theatre Times Square. The finalists are: Alabama running back Mark Ingram, Stanford running back Toby Gerhart, Texas quarterback Colt McCoy, Florida quarterback (and former winner) Tim Tebow and Nebraska defensive lineman Ndamukong Suh.

The award is annually presented to college football's most outstanding player. It is by far the sport's most prestigious prize. It's also a fairly good predictor of future failure in the NFL.

In the last 20 years, only three Heisman winners have gone on to become true NFL stars: Charles Woodson (Michigan, 1997), Ricky Williams (Texas, 1998) and Carson Palmer (USC, 2002). The overwhelming majority of winners merely got a quick cup of coffee in the big leagues, then moved on to a new career. Some never even made it that far.

[grumbler]

Toby Gerhart

Should have won it.

Yeppers.  Been saying it for weeks.

[Neil]

Looks to me like he just caught the ball on a swing pass and had just turned his momentum forward when the clip starts.  He had no chance to make that guy miss.

I'm not faulting the guy for getting tackled, I'm faulting him for making no effort to get his sternum out of the path of the dude's helmet.

It looks pretty bang-bang to me.  He's getting demolished before he's done catching the pass.  When he made that catch, he knew he was going to get his world rocked.

[Admiral Yi]

It looks pretty bang-bang to me.  He's getting demolished before he's done catching the pass.  When he made that catch, he knew he was going to get his world rocked.

He's got six steps, dude's directly in his line of vision.  Go take a look at that Iowa clip from a while back for comparison.  *That* was a case of the guy catching, turning, getting nuked.  This dude had plenty of time to at least drop a shoulder, shuffle his feet, make a move.

[Neil]

It looks pretty bang-bang to me.  He's getting demolished before he's done catching the pass.  When he made that catch, he knew he was going to get his world rocked.

He's got six steps, dude's directly in his line of vision.  Go take a look at that Iowa clip from a while back for comparison.  *That* was a case of the guy catching, turning, getting nuked.  This dude had plenty of time to at least drop a shoulder, shuffle his feet, make a move.

Are we watching the same clip?  The ball is moving around right before he gets hit, he takes about a step and a half, and his head is still turning upfield.

[Valmy]

Man I watched that ESPN special on 'The U'.  Totally forgot how much I hated those bastards.  I still remember declaring my undying hatred for Miami for all eternity as a 13 year old

There are very few games I enjoyed watching more than the 1993 Sugar Bowl.  Naturally the 'The U' special failed to mention that one.

[sbr]

So Ingram won, huh?

Completely unsurprising, but this one pisses me off more than any have since the Gino Torretta one.  There is no way Ingram was the best college football player this year, and I don't think it was close.  I hope he takes shit in the NFL and ends up sharing a cell with his dad.

[dps]

I will sleep well knowing the following though.

Saturday night, the winner of the 75th Heisman Memorial Trophy Award will be announced at the Nokia Theatre Times Square. The finalists are: Alabama running back Mark Ingram, Stanford running back Toby Gerhart, Texas quarterback Colt McCoy, Florida quarterback (and former winner) Tim Tebow and Nebraska defensive lineman Ndamukong Suh.

The award is annually presented to college football’s most outstanding player. It is by far the sport’s most prestigious prize. It’s also a fairly good predictor of future failure in the NFL.

In the last 20 years, only three Heisman winners have gone on to become true NFL stars: Charles Woodson (Michigan, 1997), Ricky Williams (Texas, 1998) and Carson Palmer (USC, 2002). The overwhelming majority of winners merely got a quick cup of coffee in the big leagues, then moved on to a new career. Some never even made it that far.

It's not like they had a really super record of going on to NFL stardom before the past 20 years, either.

[sbr]

I will sleep well knowing the following though.

Saturday night, the winner of the 75th Heisman Memorial Trophy Award will be announced at the Nokia Theatre Times Square. The finalists are: Alabama running back Mark Ingram, Stanford running back Toby Gerhart, Texas quarterback Colt McCoy, Florida quarterback (and former winner) Tim Tebow and Nebraska defensive lineman Ndamukong Suh.

The award is annually presented to college football's most outstanding player. It is by far the sport's most prestigious prize. It's also a fairly good predictor of future failure in the NFL.

In the last 20 years, only three Heisman winners have gone on to become true NFL stars: Charles Woodson (Michigan, 1997), Ricky Williams (Texas, 1998) and Carson Palmer (USC, 2002). The overwhelming majority of winners merely got a quick cup of coffee in the big leagues, then moved on to a new career. Some never even made it that far.

Who is that quote from?  I think Eddie George needs to be added to the true NFL stars list, otherwise it is fine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heisman_Trophy_winners

74 people have won Heisman Trophies (75 have been awarded, Archie Griffin won 2).

8 have made the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

16 have been #1 picks in the NFL Draft.

In the last 20 years there has been one #1 pick: Carson Palmer.  I don't think there are any potential HoFers in the list.  Prior to 1989 (Andre Ware) the Heisman Trophy winner was a pretty good pro: Barry Sanders, Tim Brown, Vinny Testaverde, Bo Jackson, Doug Flutie, Herschel Walker, Marcus Allen and George Rodgers were among winners from 1989-1979.  The only ones who didn't make a big splash in the NFL were Mike Rozier (injury) and Charles White (cocaine).